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@aelspire@aelspire.info @ariadne@social.treehouse.systems it seems like Alpine is objectively cooked... 😞 I wonder what that'll mean for pmOS
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mastodon 4.7.3Coder, tinkerer, artist, queer/lgbtq+, neurodivergent. This is my coding and tech account. What I work on: @ell1e@private.horse64.org
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@ska@social.treehouse.systems @aelspire@aelspire.info @ariadne@social.treehouse.systems not entirely, they keep OpenRC around as an option and plenty of people (like me) use it. you can't use the big slop desktops (KDE, GNOME) with OpenRC, but something like the now anti-AI labwc https://github.com/labwc/labwc/pull/3729/changes or the anti AI river works fine!
however, I do share your systemd dislike and would never install it
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If you're unsure how rare LLM plagiarism is or isn't for 💻 programming code, watch this clip! ⚠️
Full source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvuiSgXfqc4 (Not legal advice, watch yourself and draw your own conclusions.) #llmslop #antislop #antiai #noai #stopai #llm #llms #ai #generativeAI #opensource
Help me boost this post if you're curious what the Linux foundation thinks: https://hachyderm.io/@ell1e/116285351290767548
AI generated Code or Rewrites violate FOSS-Licences. Talk at FOSS Backstage Berlin
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@thomholwerda@exquisite.social Alpine seems to be about to ban AI: https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/council/-/issues/697 There's also postmarketOS. Both are usable as a Desktop distribution, in my opinion.
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@henryk for what it's worth, contact page for the EU data protection officer: https://www.edps.europa.eu/about/data-protection-within-edps/data-protection-officer-edps_en I sent a complaint about the concept of strict age verification and I suggest others do as well.
(helpful arguments that i saw, are attached)
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@the_wub@mastodon.social @Rakkom@nrw.social @Blender@mastodon.social Update: sadly, they seem to be pro slop. Oh well, was worth asking.
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@peteriskrisjanis@toot.lv @Khrys@mamot.fr Even Linux uses it now... https://hachyderm.io/@ell1e/116285351290767548 trying to understand on what grounds the LF thinks this is safe, feel free to jump in or boost.
Somehow it seems like the Steam Deck isn't actually properly supported by (standard) Linux, if you have a Github account and want it to happen then consider upvoting this issue: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/SteamOS/issues/2432
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@Cheeseness@mastodon.social @doctormo@floss.social and i don't think he ever really responded to concerns brought up how it's not just a tool: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/fd7dcb35-037c-4e0a-9dfb-5e3d444749d6@horse64.org/ The silence is curious, although I guess he could have just not seen it.
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@the_wub@mastodon.social @Rakkom@nrw.social @Blender@mastodon.social Might be a way to find out: https://github.com/Bforartists/Bforartists/issues/6506 (Please don't pile on and try to do only thoguhtful responses.)
NetworkManager's hotspot problems are sad: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/work_items/1798 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/issues/791
(No hate for the maintainers, they seem to lack resources. But perhaps somebody reading this has time and resources to help out?)
#Linux #FOSS #FLOSS #Bugs #Infrastructure #Problems #Opensource
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@mttaggart@infosec.exchange "Thoughtful" LLM code contributions seems like a myth to me. Seems like it always leads to more bugs, code rot, lower contributor engagement, and long term skill erosion and problems.
(And don't get me started on the legal and moral problems of the plagiarism and data centers.)
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@MongooseStudios@hachyderm.io I tried bringing it up on the LKML now: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/e12330b9-c29e-45ca-9375-9e3d13426d85@horse64.org/T/ but so far no reaction
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@humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world @SylvieLorxu@chaos.social Perhaps the EU seeming about to regulate this on everyone, kind of getting ahead of that or something...? https://hachyderm.io/@ell1e/116549324370281605 (Link is for the German plans of the age check app the EU is trying to have everyone use.)
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@SylvieLorxu@chaos.social Sadly, the EU seems set on trying to impose this on probably any remotely unfiltered discussion forum. See e.g. here for the German app coming to rule us all: https://hachyderm.io/@ell1e/116549324370281605 Idk if it's fully decided yet but they sure seem about to make this happen
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@deathkitten @Umbreon There's a discussion ongoing here: https://discuss.kde.org/t/sorry-to-bring-up-a-contentious-topic-kde-ai-llm-policy/46333
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@Canageek @Umbreon Sadly they seem quite hesitant to doing so: https://discuss.kde.org/t/sorry-to-bring-up-a-contentious-topic-kde-ai-llm-policy/46333 (If anybody reading jumps in, please try to be nice and constructive.)
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@mhoye@cosocial.ca that's a great analogy how it feels sometimes as an occasional FOSS contributor.
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@johannbg@mastodon.social @hughsie@mastodon.social @ebassi@mastodon.social And in the FOSS realm, it may get you declined as a contributor due to liability questions: https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/blob/main/AGENTS.md
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@bkuhn @novalis @lumi @ossguy @mastodonmigration @mjd The boycotts seem to be working okay enough for the projects that do them. (Sure, you can't stop hidden use 100%, but you can reduce it.)
It baffles me that the Linux Foundation of all orgs would be eager to apparently ignore FOSS Licensing, and not try to get rid of LLMs as much as feasible.
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@LaquinArt @traecer @jonny @srvanderplas The person in the video is a lawyer, just to let you know. Also there's this: https://www.twobirds.com/en/insights/2025/landmark-ruling-of-the-munich-regional-court-(gema-v-openai)-on-copyright-and-ai-training
My main intention was to give you resources that may inform you about how settled (or not settled) what you previously said really is. Not that I know though, since I'm not a lawyer. This isn't legal advice.
But there are plenty of sources saying that LLMs directly copying seems to be a regular event, not a rarity: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3543507.3583199
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@LaquinArt @traecer @jonny @srvanderplas You might find this interesting regarding copyright and AI generated code: (This isn't legal advice, watch and draw your own conclusions.) https://hachyderm.io/@ell1e/116313321022811490
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@traecer @jonny @srvanderplas There's also this: https://www.twobirds.com/en/insights/2025/landmark-ruling-of-the-munich-regional-court-(gema-v-openai)-on-copyright-and-ai-training It seems to be talking about fair use as it relates to AI training (I could be wrong though, read it for yourself).
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@humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world @SylvieLorxu@chaos.social Oh, I agree. If you read what I linked, it's a writeup "We're repeating German history, apparently" comparing it to previous fascists snooping on people and going in-depth on why this plan seems to be quite harmful.
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@hko@floss.social for what it's worth, I did favorite your comment assuming it was sarcasm 😣 god help us once they actually try to brand basic white hat security research as terrorism...
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@mickeymarse@social.gfsc.studio @thomholwerda@exquisite.social Now if only the Linux kernel were to let go of the AI code 😓 https://hachyderm.io/@ell1e/116285351290767548
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@mttaggart@infosec.exchange if i hear "not entirely impossible" and look at the mess of downsides that doesn't convince me it's a good idea, or even a "reasonable" or "measured" one. I regret seeing Rust go down this path...
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@ossguy @lumi @novalis @bkuhn @mastodonmigration Whatever one thinks of such small LLM experiments for own use, I personally don't understand how it would be free software on a moral level. (Legally, I don't know, I'm not a lawyer.)
For all you know, if you use LLM to "write" code, the result might contain parts of the leaked Windows XP source code, or something like that. That doesn't feel free to me at all.
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@humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world @SylvieLorxu@chaos.social and openSUSE is EU-based: https://en.opensuse.org/Imprint
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@humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world @SylvieLorxu@chaos.social I invite you to share the post where I link the "We're repeating German history, apparently" with the detailed explanation. I hope it will become more widely read. I agree we seem to be heading down a dark route with this one...
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@rugk@chaos.social @mhoye@cosocial.ca https://leminal.space/post/31858818/21120139 the EU plans to go full UK Online Safety act apparently, it's scary...
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@baillehache_pascal@hachyderm.io clearly, I alone don't have any weight either. We could use more voices.
I wonder if some of you CPU vuln nerds out there would find this interesting: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/1451#issuecomment-4149414256 #security #arm #raspberrypi #raspberry_pi #vulnerability #foss
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@humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world @SylvieLorxu@chaos.social The post I linked has the actual guidelines from the EU commission released in 2025 and apparently slated for review and possible enforcement in July 2026, basically UK Online Safety Act 2.0, and quotes the section why this is apparently planned to come to basically almost every online forum. And the technical docs of the actual app meant to check your age in Germany
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@humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world @SylvieLorxu@chaos.social Apparently the EU thought "hold my beer"
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@sleepyfox@hachyderm.io Github already used all your public repos for training, allegedly: https://archive.is/1EzVK/image And apparently even Linux is in on the slop fun: https://hachyderm.io/@ell1e/116285351290767548
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@baillehache_pascal@hachyderm.io if you're on the LKML, please consider speaking up: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/e12330b9-c29e-45ca-9375-9e3d13426d85@horse64.org/T/
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@delroth@mastodon.delroth.net while i'm with you on not trying to hide behind quality, i don't actually think it'll improve:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/corneliawalther/2025/06/09/intelligence-illusion-what-apples-ai-study-reveals-about-reasoning/
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@baillehache_pascal@hachyderm.io not meaning to call you out in particular, but doomerism isn't very helpful for effective advocacy.
Is it only me who wishes Librewolf & by extension Firefox had a better sync UI?
I don't think any sync system that involves training the user to enter the E2EE password on a website (whether it may not actually be transmitted or not) is a great idea...
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2037239
#Linux #Firefox #Security #SecurityEngineering #UX #UserExperience