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Jon S. von Tetzchner

@jon@social.vivaldi.net
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I have been working with Web technologies since 1992. I have co-founded two browser companies, Opera Software and Vivaldi Technologies. I was CEO at Opera and I am CEO at Vivaldi.

I am a strong proponent of open standards. I believe in building feature rich products that can be adapted to the needs of users without collecting information about usage. I believe no company has the right to profile their users.

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Joined November 04, 2022
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 5d ago
Boosted by @tchambers@indieweb.social
I am not a fan of gambling. Never have been. Personally I think most all gambling should be banned. Maybe with some limited exceptions. What I am more than disgusted by is the so called prediction markets. That looks like the worst kind of gambling and marketed as just stats. TV channels, such as CNN, include gambling results from these companies as something equal to polling. Hidden marketing is a more accurate term. There is also a lot of examples of people gambling on things they know the outcome of. Maybe not a big surprise with something like this. Where are the regulators? Why is this allowed? #PredictionMarkets #Scam #CNN #Politics
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2w ago
There are clearly many reasons why people are switching to Vivaldi. Interestingly, my little survey shows that the top reasons have more to do with our values than particular features. The #1 reason (77%) is the fact that we do not have built in AI. #2 is that we do not build profiles on our users (67%). #3 is that we are made in Europe. #4 and #5 is that we do not build in Crypto currencies and the built in ad and tracker blocker. We will continue to listen to our users. We have chosen a different path to our competitors and we continue to try to do the right thing. Thank you for your support! #Vivaldi #Browser #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #Technology #EU #Politics #Europa #AI
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 1w ago
RE: https://social.vivaldi.net/@brucelawson/117336112482208047 There is a choice for those that are fed up of Big Tech. There are great options out there. May I suggest you try @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net ? #Vivaldi #Browser #Technology #BigTech #Politics
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Confidence in Big Tech Continues to Slide https://news.gallup.com/poll/712436/confidence-institutions-remains-near-time-low.aspx#:~:text=Confidence%20in%20Big%20Tech%20Continues%20to%20Slide Confidence in large technology companies has fallen steadily from the 32% recorded when Gallup first included it on the list in 2020; today’s 20% rating brings it to a new low.
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Bruce Lawson ✅ ♫ ♿ ✌️♂️✊: "Confidence in Big Tech Continues to Slide https:/…" - Vivaldi Social

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3w ago
More and more people are joining Vivaldi and there are many different reasons why. Which of these are important to you? I am allowing multiple choices as I know for many of you it is not about one thing. Some of this is thing that we do, but I know for may it is also about things we do not do, such as including AI or Crypto currencies. #Vivaldi #Browser #EU #Europa #Technology #AI #Politics #Windows #Macos #Linux #Mastodon #Fediverse

More and more people are joining Vivaldi and there are many different reasons why. Which of these are important to you? I am allowing multiple choices as I know for many of you it is not about one thing. Some of this is thing that we do, but I know for may it is also about things we do not do, such

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago
Boosted by @trending@homestead.social
My first company, Opera, was built on word of mouth. The same applies to my 2nd company, @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net. We have never had the means that Big Tech has. In the case of Vivaldi, we have even avoided investors, to not end up like Opera. We have also made it harder for our selves. We likely could have generated more funds through adding stuff like Crypto, AI or just plain old data collection in the browser, but we choose not to. We are also not an Ad company like most of our larger competitors. Instead we have added a wealth of features and customization. Now people are starting to understand that just going with Big Tech may be easy to start with, but ends up not being worth it. In fact we now have governments and companies thinking that they need to move away from Big Tech and quickly. We welcome you all. #Vivaldi #Browser #Technology #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #Apple #Google #Microsofthttps://vivaldi.com/blog/how-can-a-dugnad-save-the-web/
How can a dugnad help save the web? | Vivaldi Browser
Vivaldi Browser

How can a dugnad help save the web? | Vivaldi Browser

At Vivaldi we believe that the web is one of humanity’s greatest inventions: open to everyone, built for exploration and expression. But the feeling you get being online these days doesn’t necessarily…

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2mo ago
We are getting more and more questions about using Vivaldi inside larger organizations. There is an understanding that relying on Big Tech is a bad idea and Vivaldi has a lot of unique features, but also avoids adding certain functionality that is unwanted both by users and organizations. There is no AI built into Vivaldi, no profiling of users and no Crypto currencies. We are adding functionality for managed deployment and updates, as well as policy management. If you are interested, contact us on the address below. #Enterprise #EU #Europa #Government #Technology #Browser #Vivaldi #Windows #Macos #Linuxhttps://vivaldi.com/enterprise/
Use Vivaldi as your enterprise browser
Vivaldi Browser

Use Vivaldi as your enterprise browser

A secure, private browser for your organization, full of powerful features.

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 4mo ago

In April 1994 I started working on the Opera browser with Geir Iversøy, my co-founder. I worked at Opera for 17 years, leaving it after disagreeing with investors about the way forward. Two years later I co-founded @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net with Tatsuki Tomita and Anne Stavnes. This was in 2013.

For more than 30 years we have provided alternatives to Big Tech. First with Opera and now with Vivaldi. The focus has always been quite different from our competitors. More features, more privacy, more flexibility. Lately it has also meant the choice to avoid things like Crypto and Blockchain, avoid integrating AI and avoid integrating surveillance. This is not given. Most of our competitors are building in one or more of the above.

If you like what we are doing and our stand, feel free to download Vivaldi. If you are already with us, please tell your friends.

#Vivaldi #EU #Europa #Technology #Browser #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #IOS #Automotive #Computer

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2mo ago
RE: https://social.vivaldi.net/@Vivaldi/117047776154100894 Another unique @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net service. Enjoy! #Vivaldi #Browser #Internet #Radio #Windows #Macos #Linux
social.vivaldi.net

Vivaldi Browser: "We've been working on a fun little project for a …" - Vivaldi Social

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2mo ago
A lot of people are moving away from Big Tech. Many more would like to do so, but they do not know that it is really easy to do so and that there are good options. You do, given that you are here. Maybe time to help your friends? Some good options, that I use myself : OS : Linux. Browser : Vivaldi. Mail client : Vivaldi. Calendar client : Vivaldi. Mail Service : Proton, FastMail. Social : Mastodon & Fediverse in general. Office package : Libre Office. Video conference : Whereby. Feel free to suggest more options and share with your friends! #Linux #BigTech #Microsoft #Apple #Google #Alternative #EU #Europa #Vivaldi #Browser #Mail #Calendar
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2mo ago
There are many reasons why people move to @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net. Jack Wallen tells you why he switched in this article on ZDNET. The point is really that you can make Vivaldi be what you want it to be. We respect that people have different opinions on how the browser should look and feel and thus we provide the flexibility for you to get it your way. You can have a rich UI or you can hide it. No other browser has the level of functionality that we offer, but similarly you can make Vivaldi the most minimal browser as well. We listen to users both with respect to the things we add, but also what we do not add. Vivaldi is not an ad busines, like most of our competitors. We do not push AI. We do not push Crypto. If you have not moved it our way, maybe it is time to give us a try? #ZDNET #Linux #WIndows #MacOS #Browser #Vivaldi #Technology #Computerhttps://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/work-life/what-made-me-finally-switch-to-vivaldi-as-my-default-linux-web-browser/
What made me finally switch to Vivaldi as my default Linux web browser - ZDNET
ZDNET

What made me finally switch to Vivaldi as my default Linux web browser - ZDNET

I've been an Opera/Firefox fan for a long time, but I recently switched to Vivaldi on Linux. The reasons may or may not surprise you.

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2mo ago
More and more are realizing that it was a really bad idea to entrust all data to Big Tech. Given that, what do you do now? For many it just means moving to a different hosting service, that is not Big Tech. For others it means hosting yourself. Likely there will be a bit of a combination for many. In any case, this means the need to build up competence in the organization, which IMHO is a good thing. In my old company, Opera, and in my new one @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net, we always run things that way. Our servers have always been our servers. We may choose to use some external services, but mostly we use our own. Our Vivaldi servers are in Iceland. At Opera, we built significant server farms across the world, including in Iceland, not least for the Opera Mini service. The server farms we built at Opera handled hundreds of millions of users on a monthly basis. The Opera Mini service had billions of daily page views going through it. When some are saying that there is not enough competence to move away from Big Tech, that is really nonsense. It can take time to do so, as with any migration and it may require different thinking, but it is mostly a question of will. #Technology #BigTech #SelfHosting #Vivaldi #Browser #EU #Europa
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago
At Opera we built, IMHO, the best browser engine, Presto. It was built from scratch. It aced all the tests. It was lean and fast and could run on just about any hardware. It could even run on hardware where there was not enough memory to keep a full web page in memory, which is how it was able to run on things like mobile phones, game consoles, such as the Nintendo DS and Wii, and TVs. We even made it run effectively on servers, which is how we made Opera Mini. We did that with a relatively small team. It had grown to 100 by the time I left and needed to keep growing by about 10% pr year, at my estimate. After I left, the idiots running Opera at that time decided to kill Presto and go for Webkit and Chromium. Microsoft made the same move. When we founded @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net , we knew that building a browser from scratch is not trivial and we had to do the same as Apple, Google and Microsoft and build on available source. We choose the best one available to us. We know how to build a browser. Likely better than most as we have been doing this for more than 30 years. A strong Vivaldi can and will influence the Web in a positive way, like we did with Opera. If you want a better Web, supporting Vivaldi is one of the best ways to achieve that. https://vivaldi.com/blog/how-can-a-dugnad-save-the-web/ #Windows #Macos #Linux #Technology #BigTech #Vivaldi
How can a dugnad help save the web? | Vivaldi Browser
Vivaldi Browser

How can a dugnad help save the web? | Vivaldi Browser

At Vivaldi we believe that the web is one of humanity’s greatest inventions: open to everyone, built for exploration and expression. But the feeling you get being online these days doesn’t necessarily…

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2mo ago
The correct thing for Big Tech is to follow the rules instead of getting the Trump administration involved. Big Tech is now very much part of the problem. Is it time to vote with your feet and choose alternatives to Big Tech? I would think so. #BigTech #Regulation #Politics #Technology #Google #Microsoft #Apple #Metahttps://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/24/trump-tariffs-eu-trade-google-apple-tech.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
Trump threatens EU with 'substantial TARIFF' for 'ROBBING' U.S. tech giants
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Trump threatens EU with 'substantial TARIFF' for 'ROBBING' U.S. tech giants

Trump on Truth Social railed against the European Union's new fine on Google and prior penalties against U.S. tech giants Apple, Meta and Amazon.

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago
Boosted by @tchambers@indieweb.social
Interview in PC Magazine. I had a nice chat with Chris Hoffman about some of the choices we make at @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net, not least when it comes to AI, Crypto and data collection. #Vivaldi #Linux #Windows #Macos #Android #ios #ai #BigTech #Crypto #Technology https://www.pcmag.com/news/vivaldis-leader-has-a-bold-pledge-no-ai-in-your-web-browser
Vivaldi's Leader Has a Bold Pledge: No AI in Your Web Browser
PCMAG

Vivaldi's Leader Has a Bold Pledge: No AI in Your Web Browser

While Chrome, Edge, and others race to add AI features, alternative browser Vivaldi has other plans. Its leader says users overwhelmingly feel the same about AI: “Hell no!”

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2mo ago
Congratulations Spain! Well deserved victory! 🇪🇸 ⚽ A really one sided final. Only one team deserved to win this time. #Football #Soccer #WorldCup
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago

During my survey of whether LLMs were right when they say that Microsoft has changed and is no longer an Evil Empire, 1% said they had changed and a few attacked my survey.

The survey was really about asking people in the know, because I believe there are more knowledgeable people here about things Tech, then in most other places.

Anyways, for those of you that think the Microsoft has changed, how do you defend this?

  • Windows Recall.
  • Setting Edge as default when updating Windows.
  • Edge cloning history from your default browser continuously.
  • Requiring online login to set up Windows.
  • Pushing Onedrive to the extent that people use it without realizing it, meaning they upload data without knowing it.
  • User profiling on Windows for ad purposes.

This is just a small subset of what I believe they are doing which is IMHO wrong.

Does Microsoft investing in Open Source mean that everything else they do is OK or is their investment just similar to what they did with the original Embrace, Extend, Extinguish?

BTW, I remember having exactly the same discussion then about whether Microsoft had changed as some people believed they had. It just took them a while to realize that there were multiple steps to the strategy.

#Windows #Linux #Microsoft #Technology

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago
RE: https://flipboard.com/@gizmodo/tech-fknh6odjz/-/a-6ghmXyieQ-axfqHmpO25vQ%3Aa%3A1876139665-%2F0 What do you think of this. Still want to use Big Tech? #Windows #Microsoft #Meta #Apple #Google #Politics #EU #USA
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 5mo ago
Boosted by @tchambers@indieweb.social
One of the things we need to work on is battery technology. We need to get off dependency on oil. Projects like this one, from Oslo, Norway, excite me. The idea of being able to charge the battery during summer and use it during winter is brilliant. #Technology #GlobalWarminghttps://www.photoncycle.com/en/
Store the season with Photoncycle
Photoncycle

Store the season with Photoncycle

The year-round solar energy system for heating and electricity

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 6mo ago

New @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net release on mobile. Finally we have 2 level tab stacks on iOS and we are putting significant efforts into desktop mode on Android. I am very excited about that. The idea that you can just connect your phone to a dock with keyboard, screen and mouse and have a fully working computer is great! Not just a mirror, but a full desktop environment. This has been around for a while on Samsung phones through DEX, but is now coming to Android in general and we see this as an interesting challenge to bring a true desktop experience to this environment. Obviously having things like tabs, tab stacks and panels gives us a head start, but we will continue to work on this.

#Android #ios #Technology #Computing

https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-mobile-7-9/

Vivaldi 7.9 for Mobile: Two levels of tabs, beautiful images, Safari import and Desktop Mode | Vivaldi Browser
Vivaldi Browser

Vivaldi 7.9 for Mobile: Two levels of tabs, beautiful images, Safari import and Desktop Mode | Vivaldi Browser

Vivaldi 7.9 for Mobile is a big one. iOS users finally get a signature Vivaldi feature Android fans have enjoyed for years, Two-Level Tab Stacks! Both Android and iOS get the daily image feature…

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago
Part of the issue with AI is how it can be used to rewrite history or get a version of the truth that is not entirely truthful. I asked 3 LLMs why Microsoft is called the evil empire. This is the last paragraph of their answers: Claude : "It's worth noting the company has changed substantially under Satya Nadella, who took over in 2014. Microsoft became one of the largest contributors to open source, acquired GitHub, built strong developer goodwill, and largely shed the "evil empire" reputation. The nickname feels dated today — though some would argue the aggression just moved to subtler forms like cloud lock-in and Teams bundling." OpenAI : "It's worth noting that Microsoft's reputation has changed significantly since the era of leaders like Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer. Under Satya Nadella, the company has generally been viewed as more cooperative with open-source software and competitors, though it still faces scrutiny because of its size and influence." Mistral : "Over time, Microsoft has worked to shed this image, especially under CEO Satya Nadella, by embracing open source, supporting cross-platform development, and promoting corporate responsibility" So do you agree that Microsoft is now great and Nadella can walk on water? #Technology #AI #BigTech #Microsoft #Linux #Windows #LLM

Part of the issue with AI is how it can be used to rewrite history or get a version of the truth that is not entirely truthful. I asked 3 LLMs why Microsoft is called the evil empire. This is the last paragraph of their answers: Claude : "It's worth noting the company has changed substantially und

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 5mo ago
Boosted by @tchambers@indieweb.social
To all my Hungarian friends: Congratulations! Hopefully this will be very good for Hungary, for Europe and the world!🇭🇺 #Politics #Hungary #Elections
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 5mo ago
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There is no better feeling than the satisfaction of seeing happy users of Vivaldi. There is a reason why I and the rest of the Vivaldi team continue to work hard on building a better browser for all of you! It is not always easy. Building a browser across platforms and devices is not trivial to do. Connecting them all together through sync s not trivial either. Making it work well on small and large screens, using different input methods takes a lot of work as well. Having unlimited flexibility is hard as well. This is the reason why others tend not to do it. It is a lot easier to just say that the way you design it is the right way and the user is wrong. I know there are then things that some of you would like us to do, that we have not done yet. Generally we have it on our list. Running on a different code base is not on our list, though. It is too much work for too little gain. It is better for us to spend resources on improving the one code base we have. The more resources we have, the more we can do. When you tell your friends about Vivaldi, you help us grow and you help us be able to do more. Thanks! Jon.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago
@Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net can be customized to your liking. Here is a short video demonstrating some of the predefined layouts. What is your preferred layout? #Vivaldi #Browser #Windows #Macos #Linux #Technologyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilGpHwv7Ik

Choose Your Favorite Browser Layout (or hide everything)

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 5mo ago
Boosted by @tchambers@indieweb.social
Does your car have @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net available? If you have a new car that runs Android Automotive, it is quite likely that it can run Vivaldi! It all started with the Polestar 2, but now Vivaldi runs on Polestar, Mercedes-Benz, Volvo, Renault, Audi, Ford, Lincoln and a lot more. To find Vivaldi, if it is not pre-installed, find the play store and search for Vivaldi. Enjoy! We worked hard on making Vivaldi work well in your car as well. Next time, when parked, try enjoying a live streaming sports match of your choice. It is pretty awesome! #Vivaldi #Android #Automotive #Polestar #Volvo #Mercedes #Audi #Renault #EU #Europa #technology #carhttps://vivaldi.com/android/automotive/
Vivaldi for Android Automotive | A full-scale web browser in your car
Vivaldi Browser

Vivaldi for Android Automotive | A full-scale web browser in your car

Vivaldi is the world’s first web browser for Android Automotive OS. Turn your car into a work-friendly space with the Vivaldi browser for cars!

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 5mo ago
Boosted by @tchambers@indieweb.social
RE: https://flipboard.com/@gizmodo/tech-fknh6odjz/-/a-oFoCYDtRRCygK8XEJeFOeA%3Aa%3A1876139665-%2F0 What a twisted world we live in, but we all have a choice and you all are here, which means you have made a good one. #Twitter #X #Mastodon #Vivaldi #Internet #Fediverse
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Elon Musk Scores a Victory Against Free Speech
https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-scores-a-victory-against-free-speech-2000746959?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 4mo ago
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@Ketakater@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net Here is the point. Unlike most that have an opinion on this, I have actually built a browser from scratch. Did that with Opera. Realistically we could not do that today. Would require too much resources and take too long. Then we would have to deal with compatibility issues. There are really only two other alternatives when it comes to code. Use Webkit or Gecko. That would be a larger risk and we would not be any less reliant on Apple or Google. The way for us to have the most impact is to continue to build based on Chromium. Over time we will be able to have a bigger impact as well.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 5mo ago

This is exciting. 1500 km range on an EV is just what we need at this time. We need to move off oil ASAP. Obviously ranges of 500 km are not bad either, but this is better.

#EV #Automotive #Technology

https://www.ft.com/content/1773de37-2595-4d9f-9536-dbe03ff1f8d3?syn-25a6b1a6=1&fbclid=IwY2xjawRWKXBleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFlTUdzZzJYcDREeVNKempic3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHu8UZ_znWMz489RzKEtqqsmiDbVOfXqGKv5h6QxSTFiK4lwMfGKdL5mWEKuO_aem_jfT7ZvuVRZZi6bl-eer2fQ

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Vivaldi Social

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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago
My survey showed that 99% of you do not agree with the LLMs when they say that Microsoft has changed their ways and are no longer an Evil Empire. The question is also then how the LLMs all come up with a very similar, but wrong text? LLMs are not intelligent. They just repeat the prevailing Truth and this means they can easily be manipulated in the same way SEO is used to manipulate search rankings. Anyone looking at search results knows how badly that is working and the risk is that the all knowing LLMs are and will be manipulated in the same way. I think this matters a lot as more and more are looking at LLMs as some infallible source of information. We struggle enough with misinformation on the Web, that is pushed by the content algorithms on social media. LLMs have the potential to be an even worse source of crucial information than those content algorithms. #AI #Technology #Politics
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago
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@willrs@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net Currently we are spending time modifying Chromium and adding features. As we grow, we will be able to contribute more to Chromium. Google also started with Webkit and gradually contributed more and more and later forked. A stronger Vivaldi can do more. We are doing our best to stay on the straight and narrow to avoid the fate of Opera, so we have no investors.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2mo ago
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@sirrichard@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net You can add favorite stations. For that you need to log in, so that you can access those favorites from different devices. We will be providing a way to suggest stations to add to the list as well.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2mo ago
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@h4890@merovingian.club , my experience is that people really care. It is a question of helping them realize that there are options. We have seen significant growth in Europe, when there are articles letting people know that there are options.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 4mo ago
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@oblomov@sociale.network @Ketakater@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net It would not matter if we had our own code really. If we support a format that nobody else supports, it is not really helpful. Sites do not use stuff that the main browsers do not support. That is just how things work. If there is something that Google adds or removes that we think is important to do differently we do. We spend a lot of time on that. Right now we are spending plenty of time keeping Gemini out of Vivaldi, as an example. We also remove a lot of other stuff and we add our own stuff, such as ad and tracker blockers and a lot more. The most important thing for us is to grow. More people using Vivaldi means we have more power to influence where the Web heads. IMHO that is a good thing.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 4mo ago
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@richlv@mastodon.social @Ketakater@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net I would say that the reliance is just different. For us we are trying to do the best we can. We evaluated the options available to us and we found Chromium to be the best one for us, where we can make the most difference over time. It was not an easy decision and I would have preferred for us to have our own codebase written from scratch, but that is just not realistic. Every other codebase we had to choose between had risks and we felt Chromium was the least risky, base d on our own experience of writing the code from scratch and our experience competing in the browser market.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago
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@willrs@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net The point is really that building a browser engine requires a lot of effort and we are not able to fund that on our own at this time. Given that Mozilla has given up then the question is who would be funding the project and would it be with the level of funding and knowledge that is required? In an ideal world we would have our own engine, but that is not an option. Instead we do the best we can with what is available to us. Google is not the only company working on Chromium and over time we aim to contribute more. The interesting thing is that there are multiple large companies with massive resources working on the project. It is not just Google.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago
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@vale@fedi.vale.rocks @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net Yes, I am very proud of what we achieved. We took on the task to generate a codebase that could run everywhere. We were at the time able to make Opera run on a new platform, OS/HW, in 2 weeks for a prototype and maybe 6 months for a shipped product. IMHO we had the best codebase by a mile, when you look at capability, speed, standards support and HW and software requirement. We would be able to run on platforms without good memory management and graphics management. We just used our own instead when the OS was lacking and went straight onto the metal. This included actually being memory safe, which I do not think any of the other browsers were. It was a lot of fun to take on those challenges. We are trying to do the same thing at Vivaldi. We are using Chromium, but we still take on the task to make Vivaldi run well on things like the Raspberry Pi and also in cars. Some of these issues are about the platform, while some are more about usability. Both problems are interesting. Similarly it is good to try to adapt to the needs of every user. It is a challenge, but a fun one.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2mo ago
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@WildEnte@social.vivaldi.net , we would be interested to know about requirements. We are working with some companies and we take their input and we are working on what we believe most will want and need, but always interested in more requirements as well as make contact.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 4mo ago
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@sebastian@mastodon.sebfox.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net Our goal is to to support Linux in the best way we can. This means we support Snap, DEB and RPM packages at this time. We even have made a Flatpak, but it is still unofficial as we need the Flatpak team to work with us on some issues before we can make it official.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 3mo ago
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@willrs@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net Servo is not shipping in a browser with a significant user base as far as I know. Mozilla gave up on it. I would love for them to succeed, but do they have even the resources we had working on Presto? Would it make sense for us to risk the company on moving to them?
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 5mo ago
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@cmccullough , that would clearly help as well. I think the problems need to be attacked from every angle. Better public transport, bike lanes, etc. More EVs. More and better batteries. More windmills, solar panels, heat pumps and various other green tech. Less Crypto and Blockchain.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 2mo ago
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@WildEnte@social.vivaldi.net , I think you will find that we will support all of this. We are already on a long term support version, although that is basically 2 months at this time, but so is it for Google.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 4mo ago
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@ocelot221@mastodon.social @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net I think that is unlikely. Having built a browser from scratch, I do not see it as likely that a small project can be competitive enough. I would love to be wrong on that one, but we cannot bet the company on something like that.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 6mo ago
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@rob @Vivaldi We at Vivaldi like to be ahead of the curve, so based on what we believe people will want, we will spend resources on it. Or just because we think it is cool. We have spent quite a lot of resources making Vivaldi run very well in cars, for example. We spent a lot of resources to make Vivaldi run well on Raspberry Pis. Now we are making sure Vivaldi runs really well on Android desktop mode. I am sorry to hear you are not finding tab groups useful on your iPad. Are you trying the new 2 level tab stacks we launched today? If not, give that a try. Over time we may well bring vertical tabs to mobile as well. We are a small team, but we always try to adapt to every device to make things run as well on it as possible. This applies to small phones, large phones, folded phones, tablets, cars with various size screens and various orientations, desktop modes and more. We aim to make things works as well as possible in all those situations, while recognizing that you will have opinions on how to make it adapt to your needs and that different people have different needs, which is why we have so many options...
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 6mo ago
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@cassidy We do not do telemetry at Vivaldi. I believe in listening to our users. I know some do not agree. They think that they know better and that design is best left to designers or telemetry. That is how we, IMHO, end up with sub-optimal products. Design is hard. You want things to look good and you want it to function well. The issue is that we also have different requirements and wishes. Some are not negotiable even. At Vivaldi we have tried to provide a lot of options, so people can get it their way. We did it again with the latest release where we added new functionality for tailoring the browser to your needs with auto hide and follower tab. Not everyone will use that, but some will and they will love it.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 5mo ago
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@NetscapeNavigator , yes, I think we can make more positive change by influencing Chromium at this time. The more resources we have, the more we can influence. We are already influencing most other browsers as they look our way for ideas.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 6mo ago
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@rob @Vivaldi Indeed. I agree with that. It would make our lives so much easier if we could use our own codebase for the browser core on iOS as well. It is PITA to have to use Webkit. Yes, it is interesting how things are evolving. Google is kind of merging ChromeOS, Android and Linux. That can be a very powerful combination. Apple is doing similar things and that can only be exciting. As long as we are allowed to make the most of these changes, we will do our best to support all of them.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 5mo ago
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@thearrivingdeparture The most recent news on the site is from last month. They just raised more funds.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 5mo ago
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@lisp_1 , that is understood. You kind of have to know the history to understand that.Opera went into a very different direction after I left and that is really the reason I felt Vivaldi was needed. After the fact, there have been very many reasons why are needed and it seems like the need is increasing each day.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 6mo ago
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@rob @Vivaldi , sorry if I gave the impression I was offended. I am not. I know we all have different requirements and my goal is that we try to satisfy all of them.
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Jon S. von Tetzchner @jon@social.vivaldi.net
· 6mo ago
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@tezoatlipoca @Vivaldi Indeed. I never tested this on Blackberry, so do not know how well that worked, but it is not uncommon for technologies to be relaunched and for the 2nd launch to work a lot better. Clearly we are now in a situation where the phones are at times just as powerful as PCs and are capable of running larger screens and multiple apps at the same time. The fact that connecting your phone to a setup like this makes it feel like a real computer and not just a phone being mirrored on a screen is a game changer and opens up for different kind of usage. I find this exciting.
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