Techokami

Legitimately my biggest worries are audio and video. I was not able to get far enough with NetBSD before my only means of networking stopped functioning to test things like audio. I also found out my networking went kaput when trying to install the package that let me use other screen resolutions... apparently you are locked to 1024x768 until you install an extra package that SHOULD BE something included in core??

A REDUCTIVE HISTORY OF THE CURRENT BROWSER MONOCULTURE 1998 🧙🏼‍♂️Internet Explorer sucks! It's closed source just like Netscape! Hmmm... I know! I'll make my own web browser engine! And I'll call it KHTML! Because I am a fucking wizard, and the true mascot of KDE! ⏳TIME PASSES 2000 🧙🏼‍♂️Shit that took longer than I thought, but it's done! And now Konqueror is our FOSS web browser solution! ⏳TIME PASSES 2001 🍎Internet Explorer sucks! But it's the only web browser we got for Mac OS X... ooh, what's this? KHTML? That'll be a good basis for our Webkit project and Safari browser... ⏳TIME PASSES 2013 🔍Internet Explorer sucks! It could have been more evil if it weren't for that pesky Mozilla! ...ooh, what's this? Webkit? We'll make it into our own thing, call it Blink, and make Chrome and Chromium take over the world! Ha ha! ⏳TIME PASSES 2018 🪟Internet Explorer sucks! And we even tried cleaning it up and giving it a facelift! ...ooh, what's this? Chromium? Yeah we can just rebadge this and take the easy route. ⏳TIME PASSES 2023 🐲So, bad news: we're discontinuing KHTML. But, good news: we're using Chromium instead for the HTML widget in Qt and Konqueror, which is a far more mature fork of KHTML! Thanks to Apple, Google, Microsoft, and everyone else for doing all the work for us! SUCKERS 🧙🏼‍♂️Why are you the mascot of KDE now? I'm the original fucking wizard! 🐲Kandalf I thought you went to work in Reelism 2, anyway you were fired for excessive swearing, and now I gotta call security

@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt @MrDOS@hachyderm.io @plzupgrademe@fedi.txw.ca @netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org Yeah I had already read this first. The information seems really stale as it refers to Linux 2.6.x! But even then, yeah it looks like Linux can *only* see the whole partition but not the individual slices... Hmmmm... I might reinstall and start over since the actual install was actually pretty fast. But, critical question: is it *MANDATORY* that NetBSD use FFS? Or can I use a different file system that might play nicer with Linux? I know ZFS is out of the question here, I already read the docs for that and it's messy.

@MrDOS@hachyderm.io @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt @plzupgrademe@fedi.txw.ca @netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org It was. See https://pastebin.com/dt3vj2DH for details

@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt @plzupgrademe@fedi.txw.ca @netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org hhhhhh okay back on Linux, I can use fedi with a keyboard again and my phone not tethered to my comp... What on earth was going on? Everything was going good, but then when I finally got XFCE going, my internet lifeline went kaput and refused to come back. And even then, I would have rather gotten KDE going instead, but the official docs from NetBSD have nothing on getting it going. And now that I'm back on Linux... I can't access the new NetBSD disk? GNOME Disks sees it as "NetBSD FFS" but there's no option to mount it. Which is really bad because I need a way to move my home directory to NetBSD.

@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt @plzupgrademe@fedi.txw.ca @netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org I did modprobe ufs to get the driver loaded, but when I try to mount it, it fails and dmesg gets "ufs: ufs_fill_super(): bad magic number"

@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt @plzupgrademe@fedi.txw.ca @netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org currently getting all the packages for KDE downloaded (what? I need something safe and familiar!) and this is going to take a while really do NOT like CTWM. At all. Why do I have to have the cursor on the window to keep it focused? Also why is the only editor out of the box vi????? And there is no visible settings for anything

People on fedi: We need a new C compiler to get away from what's happening to GCC! Me: what about improving tack People on fedi: what https://tack.sourceforge.net/ The only issue is that it doesn't do x86-64 but, ehhh, it already targets the important stuff like SPARC and the 68K family and PowerPC and i386 if you really need x86

Alright, serious question for #NetBSD experts: is there any way to mount and access a BTRFS partition in NetBSD? I have been looking and looking and LOOKING for information about this, but keep finding crappy dead ends. I need some means of being able to mount two BTRFS partitions so that I can migrate the data to something that both Linux and NetBSD will use. Here is what I have found: 1) https://github.com/adam900710/btrfs-fuse A read-only FUSE driver for BTRFS. Appears to be Linux only? 2) https://github.com/rustutils/btrfsutils Buried in here is another read-only FUSE driver for BTRFS. Again, seems to be aimed at Linux only. 3) https://github.com/maharmstone/btrfs WinBtrfs, Windows-oriented... but is willing to relicense to make it BSD-friendly. https://github.com/maharmstone/btrfs/issues/531 4) https://github.com/lkl/linux/ Linux Kernel Library, aka LKL, which allows for using the Linux kernel as a FUSE driver. There is a version for FreeBSD: https://www.freshports.org/filesystems/lkl/ but even I, a complete newbie to the world of the BSD Boys, knows that FreeBSD and NetBSD are completely different operating systems, so I have no idea how portable this is to NetBSD. However if this DOES work with NetBSD, then this would be an excellent solution...

@eevee@slime.global the tl;dr as I understand it is basically: KDE tried to force through AI rules, user base wanted the rules to be "don't use them, period", one user called out a developer as being a literal nazi with proof, KDE locked the discussion and banned the person calling out the nazi, then banned the nazi one day later, and are now trying to damage control while also calling the user base not part of the community. It's a mess!

@nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt oh nooo I was also looking at pcc

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com OOOH NEW OPEN SOURCE COMPILER Now we just need to keep it clean

@joe@f.duriansoftware.com @ratsnakegames@mastodon.social on it coach https://github.com/Techokami/edgcpp_compiler

So I recently stumbled upon something called "Debian Time Capsule", which claims to be a recreation of CDE in the web browser... but it feels more like a bootleg version. https://debian.com.mx/ It's on GitHub: https://github.com/Victxrlarixs/debian-time-capsule and it's making me go 🤨 from the readme... But, if you're using actual CDE, the palettes included here are in the correct format and can be dropped into ~/.dt/palettes/ to give yourself a bunch of extra themes to pick from: https://github.com/Victxrlarixs/debian-time-capsule/tree/main/public/palettes

@xyla@shitpost.trade Welcome to the crew :)

what shenanigans are they planning (also book get!)

@lproven@social.vivaldi.net

contains historical versions of XFCE layouts oh? XFCE historically started as a CDE clone OH??? no CDE layout option wimps

@freya@social.highenergymagic.net GCC is allowing slop :( Also Sun Studio is proprietary and costs money to use? Or did I misread the website?

@drj@typo.social https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/code/ci/master/tree/ under cde/programs/dtcm/

@drj@typo.social CDE already has a calendar app (dtcm) but it needs repairs. Why not fix it up instead of making an entirely new program?

@neal@social.gompa.me @dzwiedziu@mastodon.social @davidgerard@circumstances.run then please, for the love of God, Neal... when the topic reopens to developers only, PLEASE try to stop them from allowing AI in KDE. PLEASE. This entire situation is stressing me out so much.

@nerdnextdoor@social.bear-den.org what DE did you jump to?

Part of me wants to get and use a proper Sun keyboard on my computer, because it looks cool and would fit in better aesthetically. But the other part of me knows better than to switch from a nice mechanical keyboard to a crappy rubber dome keyboard...

Status update on these: 1) and 2) nothing yet. Ideas, anyone? 3) Tried xfile, was not feeling it... will need to look around a bit more, I think I had seen something that fits the bill but I forget what it was called. 4) Still randomly crashy. I never get to catch it in the act because it's on another workspace. 5) picom was suggested, and it is helping! Probably need to fine-tune the settings.

@NicoleJLeBoeuf@wandering.shop if you want a good summary, Wikipedia had two people I watch on YouTube make a short: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OCIUwxI7l9U

@flesh@transfem.social @thomholwerda@exquisite.social @mir@ice.ch3.st it's made by the guy that got kicked off the LKML for incessantly peddling right-wing conspiracy theories. The development community for xlibre is equally as toxic.

@mir@ice.ch3.st I was curious about the software, so I pulled up their official repo list, went straight to the "main" packages, and looked for xlibre, because I had a hunch... turns out that hunch was correct and they only provide xlibre for an X server with some driver stuff from XOrg being vestigal

@hund@gts.linuxkompis.se @david@voidposter.club thiiiiis 100% Just because one implementation is facist doesn't mean that ALL implementations are

@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @thomholwerda@exquisite.social @mir@ice.ch3.st oh dang I was looking for the actual packages but I'm not much of a Debian guy so I didn't know where to look (hence why I went for the main package manifest)

@sebastian@jittr.click oh neat you have Wii Music

@thomholwerda@exquisite.social @mir@ice.ch3.st Go to https://repo.antixlinux.com/trixie/dists/trixie/main/binary-amd64/ and look in the Packages file. I did a quick grep of xlibre and found it replacing xorg

@decay@gts.todayiwilllaunchmyinfantsonintoorbit.com @mos_8502@studio8502.ca @thomholwerda@exquisite.social except the 68K was better [RUNS]

Update! 1) Screenshotting works! See attached image. Though I may have messed up on the command or my keybind for screenshotting the currently active window. But pressing PrintScreen dumps a timestamped PNG image into ~/Pictures/Screenshots like I wanted. And unlike xwd, this can capture programs like Discord! I used maim to handle the capturing. 2) I think I got audio controls working as well! Turns out PipeWire comes with the CLI tools I needed in the form of wpctl. 3) Migrating to pcmanfm is going to be a lot of effort :blobfoxgooglyholdingitsheadinitshands: still just using Dolphin right now. 4 and 5) picom is now doing the compositing for dtwm, and this seems to have stabilized Discord as well as deal with the tearing issues. Hot damn!

@decay@gts.todayiwilllaunchmyinfantsonintoorbit.com @mos_8502@studio8502.ca @thomholwerda@exquisite.social ...what. SPARC and ARM both literally descended from Berkeley RISC

There's a handful of things I still need to address, some of which might be out of my control: 1) Volume controls. I used the guide on the CDE wiki: https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/How%20to%20control%20the%20sound%20using%20pulse/ But I don't think it works with the knob on my 8bitdo keyboard? Unless newer tech like pipewire makes this obsolete, in which case we need a newer version of this guide. Or Oracle can donate the volume control app they made for CDE, HINT HINT 2) Screenshotting. xwd, ehh, works? But it's very clumsy and is polluting my home directory. Would be nice to have something that Just Works using well-known hotkeys, like the PrintScreen key. Even if it doesn't use the clipboard and just saves the image with a timestamped filename to a configurable directory would be fine. 3) File manager. Dtfile is a bit too basic for my needs. Looking for something with per-directory view settings, the ability to show items in groups, and ideally shortcut lists and tabs. I THINK there is a Motif-based file manager like this...? Otherwise I can try to just keep using Dolphin. 4) Discord's client. Uhm, it does not seem to like CDE very much? Stability issues and weird errors. Worst case scenario I switch to the web client in Waterfox, but having the actual client would be better. Also, Dtwm does not like it using Client Side Decorations very much... 5) Screen tearing. Yeah I've been noticing this a lot now. Maybe using compton for compositing could fix this? https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Eye%20candy%20-%20CDE%20with%20the%20compton%20compositor/ Also in b4 "use Wayback", check the bug tracker

@ratsnakegames@mastodon.social @joe@f.duriansoftware.com ............................................................................................. WHY.

@drj@typo.social 👀 got any good fonts you've made with it to share? I could spruce up my environment with some quality fonts...

@tragivictoria@mastodon.com.pl @david@voidposter.club yeah changing one's entire environment is a shitty thing, hence the suggestions of using XOrg or Wayback (and yes I do know about the Hyprland community, let's not open that can of rancid worms here)

@netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org still failing. Why the hell is this being so difficult? Am I hitting a stupid gotcha?

Topical challenge: someone needs to make Zig bindings for Motif.

@drj@typo.social Yeah I got all the standard issue X11 fonts, I was looking for more. I heard there are versions of SGI fonts as well? All I have on hand are the TTF versions.

@netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org In retrospect it was probably from me misreading the guide. xrandr would not let me change to anything that wasn't 1024x768, and arandr was suggested to be used instead. I think the real issue is that I need the drm subsystem enabled since I have an Intel Arc A770