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@david_chisnall
I 100% agree, and this even just leaves out the rug pull.
There's always a rug pull. Either they will make it way more expensive, they will figure out some way where you have to keep paying to have access to stuff "your" LLM made in the past, or maybe it'll just be full of ads.
Regardless, the idea that as free software advocates we should now just start trusting propriety software to work in our best interests is...
A choice.
Starting with a piece of A4 paper, cutting it in half each time, I can make 9 little boats!
It's always best to, when you create debug messages, show them to your users.
That way your users don't have to GUESS whether you give a shit or not!
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@atax1a@infosec.exchange @dieweltist@bunt.social I'm only addressing the point that free software people, like myself, are being hypocritical about LLMs.
Telling everyone who wants to write software to a) pay monthly to access proprietary software
b) download and install non-free software locally to work with the SaaS software
Is pretty much exactly the opposite of what we ever wanted computing to be.
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@david_chisnall
Absolutely! I thought it would be good to make your implication explicit, because a lot of people reading this will, for some reason, have a really uncritical opinion of big tech companies.
I think most people don't realize what Uber actually did.
Whatever will they think of next! 120 MEGA byte #floppies
That is like almost TEN copies of doom!
An interesting result of how "cheap" words and code have become in the age of LLMs is that the Blaise Pascal quote "I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time." has gotten a whole new meaning.
It used to be when I saw a PR with a long description it was an indication that someone spent a lot of time and thought on it.
Now it means the opposite.
#programming
Who has two thumbs and just bought a #laserdisk player by the kilo?
For about €2/kilo.
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@dieweltist@bunt.social if it were possible to train an LLM entirely locally or in such a way that the contents of the LLM are entirely inspectable and editable. And it was practically possible to run on a machine that people could reasonably have at home then I'll consider it not a problem from a free software ethics point of view.
If the only PRACTICAL way for people to access the capability is by renting access to proprietary software on someone else's computer then it is not empowerment
The instructions for my adhd meds have one fun extra function!
Is this #origami? 😅
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@dieweltist@bunt.social yeah yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what people talk about.
For all practical purposes using an LLM to "write code" is just renting a program. It's just SaaS.
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@mwk@donotsta.re this almost feels like an errata, I can almost see the Verilog typo someone made. "Guess this is a feature now. - Dave, after tape out. Probably"
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The point is to be left with contributions who don't use ai, and those who use it in such a way that doesn't lead to slop.
Arguing with people who are OBVIOUSLY using ai to generate all communication they send to the GitHub is a huge waste of time.
I don't want to operate someone else's Claude code session and have them get a commit credit.
That is what reviewing an AI generated PR is. It's pointless. AIs don't learn. It's ALWAYS faster to do it yourself.
#aislop
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@thomholwerda@exquisite.social @osnews@mstdn.social can we get you taking a holiday at the beach as a stretch goal?
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@cstross calling your customers smarter than average also never fails.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
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@wren6991 the whole idea of please asking a piece of software to not perform its primary purpose is pretty wild.
They consume tokens. You get billed for the tokens.
What?!
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@jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.net He's saying that using proprietary software is the software freedom we've always wanted.
"Rent access to closed source software and experience software freedom!"
He's exactly right, that we do say "no, not like that".
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@vadim@m.vrutkovs.eu in the context of free software? No.
Because that was what this was about.
In general? Yes.
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@vadim@m.vrutkovs.eu wow, mind blown. You are so right.
Renting SaaS software is EXACTLY the same as having to actually pay for beer in the context of free software! That's what they meant with "free as in freedom, not as in beer"
Thank you so much for explaining my philosophy to me!
You are a very big and smart boy!
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@dieweltist@bunt.social I think that "A thing that can take a day on contemporary computers" vs "A thing that will take 5 months and takes a whole data center" are literally somewhat orders of magnitudes different. 😃
I think potentially it could be. Or at least in free software terms could be morally neutral. Which is really the only thing I'm trying to talk about right now.
Hello fellow #laserdisk and/or #electronics nerds. I bought a #pioneer CLD-2700 today for scrap pricing. It does not turn on, at all. No standby light, no nothing.
I found a suspiciously rusty looking screw in the psu area that looks suspiciously like electrolyte damage?
Can someone with a bit more experience than me weigh in? I'm pretty comfortable with soldering and such but I'm really not good with analogue electronics or power supplies.
Thanks!
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink @dieweltist@bunt.social who didn't have a PDP-11 in their basement in the 80s!
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@promovicz@chaos.social @dieweltist@bunt.social I'm really only addressing the "gotcha" Matthew posted.
I don't think it's a gotcha at all.
Telling people to rent access to proprietary software is exactly what we didn't want!
The free software political stance on this is entirely coherent and unsurprising in my opinion.
Whether anyone, (or Matthew), agrees with the politics is an entirely different thing.
But it's certainly not a gotcha about our ethos!
Nobody wants these old-fashioned mice, and yes, please tell me EVERY TIME I BOOT MY COMPUTER.
I might forget how much fun my new touchpad is!
#retrocomputing
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@mntmn@mastodon.social @timonsku@mastodon.social @LinaroLtd@mastodon.social @nlnet@social.nlnet.nl that is extremely cool!
I'm very excited about the prospect of daily driving the Qualcomm based reform!
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@amicklei@mastodon.social i have not yet used them! I bought a drive a while back for pretty cheap. I'm planning to be able to emulate these!
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Actually, I miscounted, I did 5 today already.
This kind of proves THAT point.
Brought to you by "no I'm actually an idiot, this wasn't a bit".
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@mjdxp it's basically a sort of credits program!
https://github.com/reactos/reactos/tree/master/modules/rosapps/applications/notevil
It is, in fact, probably not evil.
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@CursedSilicon @arrrg my quad needs some TLC for its AIO.
But I haven't gotten to it yet.
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@jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.net I was also very surprised. He usually seems to have pretty decent takes.
Then again, he does work for NVidia.
It's very difficult to believe something if not believing it pays the bills. 🤷♀️
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@jiub@not.an.evilcyberhacker.net yes, exactly.
I have a whole other list of issues as well.
But the idea that it is hypocrisy for free software people to not want people to use non-free SaaS is... A choice.
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@peterb@mathstodon.xyz @promovicz@chaos.social @dieweltist@bunt.social in that hypothetical, probably yes. But it's not just that software in this case, I'd say that it is the model itself as well.
The model is functionally indistinguishable from bytecode for some kind of VM.
But as far as the actual thing I was talking about; that is NOT what basically anyone who uses these models talks about.
*Today*, suggesting that LLMs are some kind of "implementation" of the free software goals, while it is still all SaaS is just wrong.
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@vadim@m.vrutkovs.eu @poni@ak.kawen.space
Have you ever heard about free software?
Paying for Office 365 isn't an alternative to running your own mail server.
Running Windows isn't an alternative to GNU
If you think it is, that is fine! You don't have to agree, but that simply means you don't think software freedom is important. Which is also fine.
But don't tell me that I don't understand what I believe.
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@niconiconi@mk.absturztau.be
And of course HPFS-2G