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Elizabeth Ayer

@elizayer@mastodon.social
mastodon 4.8.0-nightly.2026-10-06
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Hi! I do civic tech, product, and org design. Will be teaching #CivicTech at UW, starting Fall, '26.

My happy place is down a rabbithole, occasionally ejecting content as a proof of life. Posts usually about software, with some politics, history and philosophy thrown in, but secretly still about software.

Based in #Tacoma, superfan of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge and #infrastructure in general.

Pronouns: she/her
Countries: UK/US

#productmanagement #ProductLeadership

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Joined October 28, 2022
Blog:
https://medium.com/@ElizAyer
Website:
https://elizabeth-ayer.com/
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 1mo ago
Boosted by @trending@homestead.social
I'm imagining an alternative MBA program with exercises like, "Estimate the total negative impact of a last-minute all-hands meeting as a function of org complexity" and "Design a management system that is resilient to the fact that you promoted the wrong person."
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago
Boosted by @hperrin@port87.social
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The fact that we are *not* seeing wildly improving software all around us tells us everything we need to know. There is no flourishing of value delivery, new product categories, more needs being satisfied better. It’s the opposite. All we are seeing is decreases in quality, because 👏 code 👏 creation 👏 is not 👏 the problem.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
Boosted by @hypebot@goingdark.social
Reminder: de-skilling as a trend in software engineering was already in progress well before LLMs. Toxic productivity culture, people meeting badly-designed internal reward metrics, hopping jobs and never seeing the consequences of bad choices, plummeting quality, short-termism. Sure LLMs add fuel to this fire, but I’m not at all convinced they’re causal. If anything, their popularity seems more a consequence of the culture than cause.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago
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So why are we still trying to optimize code creation? For decades, people with power - executives and product people - have been shifting the blame for strategy failures and poor market insight onto development "productivity." This AI moment should be incredibly clarifying. Like, it should be the reductio ad absurdum of a productivity-centric approach.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 3mo ago
RE: https://mastodon.world/@OpenSexism/116848074881856737 More research showing different genders get judged differently, this time for AI use. It's interesting to me how the typical narrative is that women get a credibility penalty, rather than men getting a credibility bonus. It suggests that men are judged correctly today, but I dunno... I'm for dialing *up* the critical judgement of written work - especially AI-assisted - to woman levels instead!
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"The study found that women who submit resumes created with AI assistance are evaluated as less competent and less trustworthy than men who submit identical AI-assisted resumes. To the evaluators, women’s AI use signaled inability, while men’s AI use signaled initiative." https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelletravis/2026/06/25/women-who-use-ai-seen-as-incompetent-men-who-use-ai-seen-as-pragmatic/
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OpenSexism: ""The study found that women who submit resumes cr…" - Mastodon

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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago

I feel the saying should be: do something you love, and you'll never *rest* a day in your life.

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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago
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@felix Exactly. EXACTLY! I think it's a direct response to the growth of mystical-feeling engineer power.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago

RE: @emilymbender@dair-community.social

🙌

I get actual chills at the incisiveness of this.

From a forthcoming encyclopedia entry.

dair-community.social

Prof. Emily M. Bender(she/her): "1. AI Is a Research Field 2. AI Is an Approach to…" - Distributed AI Research Community

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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@cobbpg @hyc I think I 80% agree, some people are more prone to caring... And also extrinsic motivation that connects to intrinsic motivation can make such a difference. For some devs, I've seen this connection through the org valuing their commitment to quality, for others it's through connecting to user voices and needs. Or strong affinity with the problem domain itself. Or their team. There are so many ways of caring it almost blows my mind how orgs avoid nurturing any of them.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago

I am absolutely baffled how so many books and articles about AI don't disclose how AI was used in the creation of the work.

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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@hyc oh yes, very much so. It's almost a wonder that expertise and care ever *does* develop!
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago

It might be time to start journaling.

We are going to have a *lot* of explaining to do to future generations.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/2026/04/15/allbirds-shares-jump-over-400-on-plans-to-pivot-to-ai-from-sneakers/

Allbirds shares jump over 400% on plans to pivot to AI from sneakers
BNN Bloomberg

Allbirds shares jump over 400% on plans to pivot to AI from sneakers

Shares of Allbirds surged more than five-fold on Wednesday after the footwear maker said it was raising capital and pivoting towards AI computing infrastructure.

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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@JeffGrigg @cobbpg @hyc This is so true, it's an overwhelming and aggressive level of productivity. Reminds me of Brandolini's, "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it." Maybe two orders of magnitude now.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@beep Imagine if we all got really good at distinguishing frameworkable activities from dynamic activities. Automated and repeatable for the things that should be (e.g. dev pipelines) and organic and care-infused for the things that are complex and touch human lives. Imagine!
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago

RE: @chrisjrn@social.coop

I adore this talk from @chrisjrn@social.coop

It takes you on a journey from programming as an objective mathy exercise to its real interpretive nature in a messy human world.

It shines a light on practices that many teams follow out of rote and explains what they are *really* for.

And I especially appreciate how it challenges us to understand what is being lost as so-called friction is removed!

Very good stuff.

social.coop

Christopher Neugebauer: "@elizayer@mastodon.social and that was 100% the p…" - social.coop

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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago

I think in gov tech we're now long past the whole, "it's not a sprint, it's a marathon" thing.

It's clearly chessboxing.

Oof.

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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@shom haha, no apologies needed - I posted this after a smart, sci-fi oriented friend used space data centers as a reason Elon might be a smart guy after all. No. Just no.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago
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@mroach @robtherunt @macronencer Heck yeah. So let's not even get started on the ways RTO undermines effectiveness....
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago
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@cigitalgem Yeah, I also want to be honest with ourselves. At least in the US, people change jobs so often -- and promotion practices are so shonky -- that the jr dev-architect flow was already under threat at scale 😕
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago

It's not every day that my team and I get called a "roster of ineffectual, empty vessels whose ambition one would forgive if there were any genuine belief structure lurking within."

😂

(Obviously not linking to the source, because it's on X and the rest is worse)

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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@jcolag Appreciate the studies! And yes, I don't think it undercuts the point at all... For me studies like these mimic the work world quite effectively, in that the tasks have no downstream consequence and there's no reason the subject should care about producing quality work. It's compelling that LLMs do increase deskilling as one does pointless work. But I'd still say it's still the violence of dissociating people from meaning in the workplace that is the real problem!
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@twifkak Funny, that's where I came to this thought from! For me, it suggests that activity without supporting culture change is likely to be exhausting and ultimately unsuccessful. Definitely keep hands on high-leverage points, but I think it's also important to nurture the ecosystem of work at different levels. Ultimately we'll need a wider range of activities and themes that promote cultures of quality and responsibility.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@kevinhiggins@mstdn.social I hear @beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com 's book is pretty good https://ethanmarcotte.com/books/you-deserve-a-tech-union/
ethanmarcotte.com
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@leeloo In my experience most people -- including well-educated people -- have a hazy grasp of physics, then hear credible-sounding people advocating the idea. Like this from the World Economic Forum: https://www.weforum.org/stories/2026/01/data-centres-space-ai-revolution/
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago

RE: @globalmuseum@mastodon.online

Huh, I'd always assumed that was a bigoted assumption about people who lived in hot climates.

But nope, just a bigoted assumption about people of the past!

mastodon.online

Global Museum: "There's a widespread myth that medieval people us…" - Mastodon

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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@firepoet Not blaming the hoppers, and apologies, I agree it reads that way! I think the picture is mixed. There are some folks who move frequently and avoid responsibility... But I do think it's much more about a system that typically restricts progression of good, thoughtful folks, overpromotes others according to a strange individualized model of "leadership," and embraces a highly problematic layoff culture. And I'm really sorry for your experience in an unlivable situation. ❤️
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago

RE: @steltenpower@social.edu.nl

You had me at the title!

It's talking wayyy left, all the way to standards development.

In fact, it's a nice little infomercial for the paper "Making technical standards work for humanity: New pathways for incorporating international human rights into standards development for
digital technologies"

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/issues/civicspace/resources/civic-space-study-tech-standard-setting.pdf

social.edu.nl

Ruud Steltenpool: "Daniel Appelquist – Shifting Left on Human Rights…" - SURF Mastodon

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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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This episode of mystery AI Hype Theater 3000 is also a wonderful antidote to "AI data center in space" thinking. https://peertube.dair-institute.org/w/ggqiYcoWgw8p2ELsvzwfsJ
Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000, Episode 73 - Data Centers in Space!?
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Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000, Episode 73 - Data Centers in Space!?

Data centers are overburdening the planet, so tech billionaires have a new scheme — put

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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago
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@joeinwynnewood @Aedius Amazing! I love a success story like that. Of course... not all engineering teams are successful at the up-front work. Often out of a combination of weak engineering skills and the wrong environment... I've come across very few senior managers who have the skill to create an environment where this is possible! Would love to see a recognition of this in leadership circles :sigh:
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@david_chisnall @dckim And now that we have a tool that purports to be a full team, any undervalued or tacit skill is at risk of going under the steamroller! I agree wholeheartedly with @chrisjrn on the need to identify what we value, especially for things that cause productive friction youtu.be/d7AeWFbOTHg
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@grepe I'll happily accept the critique that this is the weakest of the factors I list... I do think, though, that there is a special magic to a single person wrestling with a choice, making a decision, then living the consequences. Even with the best documentation in the world, it's really hard otherwise to understand the full context of a decision made when you weren't there. And so often there are execution details that nobody ever guessed might be relevant.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@chrisjrn Love it!! (But as an ex-logician, I might just be in the bullseye of your target audience) I co-wrote a thing a long time ago about all that gets lost when an organization changes from one contractor team to another, and this reminds me of all that all over again. I hadn't spotted the connection before, but yes, all this stored network knowledge that isn't generally even recognized as value.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@Retreival9096 I don't care what the system says, that sounds like a win! Good job. Delayed payoffs are the best.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@krusynth@mastodon.publicinterest.town I'm so, so sorry, Bill. My heart goes out to you, and I'm sending all my support. ❤️ These times really are the worst.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago
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@knowprose Yes! I also find it really interesting who is considered a "safe pair of hands." Which largely maps to who will uphold the social order of the upper levels. It seems obvious to everyone in orgs now that any tension between what's good for the company and what execs find appealing will always be resolved in favor of what execs find appealing. Which I find an incredibly damning indictment of modern management culture.
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@Retreival9096 Yes!! I'm guessing, though, that it was still good for your learning, even as the annual review system crushed your soul..... 😭
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@adam@mastodon.tacoma.community 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@knowprose Funny you should say that about "epistemic hygiene." Wouldn't it be nice if we could treat what goes into our minds with the same care as what goes on around our bodies? But I do find it encouraging that the impact is being recognized - and named! - in mainstream sources like this: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/14/climate-crisis-communication-super-rich
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@knowprose I've noticed that. But for me I'm much more horrified by the idea of going around being wrong forever than I am about finding out I'm wrong 😆
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@knowprose For me, it's less about contradicting the cold narrative with a heat narrative (which could be easy, of course, given that water boils immediately in space!). It's more about creating moments to resharpen. This might be hearing a perfect succinct argument (e.g. "thermos flask!") or it might be when we refresh and check our own thoughts. Related to the your post earlier today, writing is great for that kind of due diligence on our ideas! :-)
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago
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@mayintoronto 💗
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago
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@knowprose That's so funny, I was just thinking "ahhhh, I can't step away, because someone is *right* on the internet. That's not how this is supposed to work!" But I'm going to step away anyway. ✌️
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago
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@pdebruin I sometimes wish we could look at the positive side of that -- anything with high stakes *should* require social decision-making, aka "politics." Just preferably not the now-near-ubiquitous toxic kind ;-)
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@knowprose yeah, that's a good point. Cognitive surrender, automation bias, those just seem like specific cases of deferring to authority, which to an extent is a good instinct! But very hackable. :-/
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 6mo ago
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@goleztrol hahaha fair!
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Elizabeth Ayer @elizayer@mastodon.social
· 5mo ago
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@knowprose Maybe... when the internet happened, I think it triggered a significant increase in many people's ability to think, by having better access to information and people to test their ideas with. Seems to me like we just ditched the gatekeeper model of epistemic hygiene without adopting a similarly democratized version. Yet?
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