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@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @reimu@mk.fumo.pictures @tyler@nicecrew.digital man i still find kicad hard to use, then again i learnt circuit simulation back in around 2015 with livewire, and that because it was the tool a highschool classmate had learnt at a technical course outside the electronic technician highschool cuz our prof was teaching us without a simulator, only pen, paper, calculator and protoboard so our circuits could burn if we didn't didn't tun the numbers and he enforced "measure and math thrice, then build and measure twice"