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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ

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associate professor of computational cognitive science · she/they · cypriot/kıbrıslı/κυπραία · σὺν Ἀθηνᾷ καὶ χεῖρα κίνει

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Joined August 19, 2018
Personal website:
https://olivia.science
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GitHub:
https://github.com/oliviaguest
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
Open Letter: Stop the Uncritical Adoption of AI Technologies in Academia It's been a year & people tell me they've changed their mind, feel safer now to sign, etc. So I'm sharing it again for them. We're almost at 2k & anybody from anywhere can add their names. https://openletter.earth/open-letter-stop-the-uncritical-adoption-of-ai-technologies-in-academia-b65bba1e?limit=0
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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Like with entryism & related sabotage, it's easy for experts to spot. I explained how at the top.

Is it intentional? You can decide:

who plows on regardless, who does not listen to feedback, who materially and not just ideologically aligns with the AI companies.

https://olivia.science/entryism/

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago

OK, it's honestly very distressing and worrying and I have ADHD, so I wrote it all down to get it out of my head

https://olivia.science/entryism/

Enjoy, I guess...

Now that being against AI in an informed way is becoming mainstream, we need to be aware of entryism: the long-term strategy deployed by pro AI people or entities, like companies, to subvert such movements.

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago

RE: @olivia@scholar.social

> The controversy associated with the statement “Ada Lovelace was the first computer programmer” reveals more about modern attitudes towards women [than her] achievements. [Her 1843 algorithm] was so advanced, that it was still utilised in record-breaking computation of Bernoulli numbers in 2008.

https://blue-stocking.org.uk/2024/06/14/ada-lovelace-the-first-computer-programmer/

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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It's so core to the technology that things like Pygmalion displacement (https://doi.org/10.31235/osf.io/jqxb6) pretending the Turing test (https://olivia.science/turing/) did not contain gender, and much more, happen right under our noses. https://scholar.social/@olivia/116941172719719192 3/n
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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This has been happening for a long time: this is why we already coined "manel" and so many other related terms, like cryptogyny above, to trace and deal with this form of sexism. As with everything under AI, this is turbo charged by the technology because its logics are themselves superficial. https://olivia.science/entryism 2/n
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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Maybe many mid-career and above academics have my experience, and so can relate, but it never ever gets any less impressive, overwhelming, or old when a student appears our of nowhere (notice our geographic distance is big as are our official fields not that overlapping) and does amazing work! 🤩 2/
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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We argue that both misdiagnose the problem as the issue is not whether or not LLMs work, but what kind of working is happening and at whose cost. Drawing on meta-theoretical frameworks of cognitive science, feminist labor analysis and critical pedagogy, we propose a conceptual reorientation.

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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OK, let's talk about 3 important concepts: ANNs, LLMs, & AI: "Definitions of AI and LLM are hard to pin down [&] ANN is an umbrella term for models" Black box: Really not what people think because actually you can open it (read on in the PDF to find out) by design! Leibniz' Mill: "argument against the idea that mechanical components suffice to understand cognition" All are important & misused (1st 2) or forgotten about (last) to pretend we don't understand AI. https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20071869 4/
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago

@samhforbes@scholar.social and I:

> LLMs are labor intensive, are economically infeasible, and pollute the environment, and these properties may outweigh any proposed benefits. For example, poor quality air directly harms human cognition, and thus has compounding effects on educators' and pupils' ability to teach and learn.

To Improve Literacy, Improve Equality in Education, Not Large Language Models https://doi.org/10.1111/cogs.70058

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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This hangs with the other statements in fig 1: 1️⃣ ANNs (artificial neural networks) are inspired by human organism 2️⃣ ANNs are a black box we don't understand 3️⃣ We understand neither ANNs nor cognition therefore they are similar All 3 are misplaced! We unpack this... https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20071869 3/
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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Anyway, back to the work itself (from the abstract):

Critical discourse on large language models (LLMs) has bifurcated between epistemic dismissal [...] and pragmatic accommodation that treats LLM capability improvements as grounds for updating the critique.

https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.21222978

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago

Touched grass today, but the cool kids were eating it

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago

If a guy named Geoffrey Jefferson can figure this out in 1949...

"The mind of mechanical man." British Medical Journal

https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.1.4616.1105

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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Or to put it a different way: Why do we tolerate these claims? And even accept them as excuses? Or as a new normal?

The dramatic irony here is [that companies and scientists] are willing to go on record saying they do not know how these models work @CyberneticForests@assemblag.es

https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20071869

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago

Thank you to all who did the translating of our Open Letter: Stop the Uncritical Adoption of AI Technologies in Academia — can't believe we have: Brazilian Portuguese, Dutch, French, German, Italian, Spanish 💥‼️

✍️ sign here: https://openletter.earth/open-letter-stop-the-uncritical-adoption-of-ai-technologies-in-academia-b65bba1e?limit=0

🌏 all languages here: https://olivia.science/ai/#activism

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 4mo ago
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To address these confusions, we must consider how:

In a world where the technology industry and even our colleagues reject theory building, through ignorance, mockery, and semantic shell games, we can subvert their feigned lack of understanding to our advantage. Scientific theorising has more not less value in times of scarce deep thinking, thought-less technosolutionism, and obfuscation of the cognitive.

https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20071869

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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(Lil peek ahead to appreciate the pun this enables in section 4 (see screenshot)! Right, back on track: before we use those 3 to tease apart what's going on, however, we have to contend with where we are. In 2010s we actually did avoid these traps, yes, even industry! “the most extreme promises of AI are based on a flawed premise: that we understand human intelligence” https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20071869 5/
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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Oh, if people are also on LinkedIN (I am not so please I have no idea what is happening on there) — she is here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ishaniray0529 send her appreciation or whatever of the nice stuff people do on there ☺️ 7/
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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The stochastic parrot [...] specifies what is forfeited when cognitive labor is delegated, who bears the cost, and why a literacy adequate to this moment must begin from the epistemology of those most harmed by the systems it describes.

https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.21222977

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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Part of the answer is in this 💯 quote from Bryan Pfaffenberger: “Technology, in short, is a mystifying force of the first order[, ] suspending us in webs of significance that we ourselves create.” (p. 250) But there's nuance when it comes to "why" and ANNs... https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20071869 8/
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago

reminder...

> Anybody can ‘win’ a marathon if driven by car. Does that make it a weakness of the marathon race as an endurance event? Or does it reflect a deeper category error on our behalf, like with the misapplication of statistical tests, that an assumption has been violated?

@olivia@scholar.social

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago

This is the issue with theoretical work these days. Data isn't collected as means unto itself unless we've lost the point of experiment & observation. Without explicit theory to house data it's meaningless. Duhem-Quine, underdetermination of theory of by data is lost on people.

https://olivia.science/theory

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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We analyse this through 1️⃣ the cognitive: what is forfeit when statistical pattern-matching substitutes our thinking 2️⃣ the pedagogical: AI literacy as currently deployed is a symptom 3️⃣ the political: AI's infrastructure inherently naturalizes labor displacement pdf: https://zenodo.org/records/21222978/files/RayGuest2026.pdf?download=1 5/
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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Underlining, to help those who have not read the PDF yet: this paper is on understanding why people claim they do not understand; recall promise of an error theory in the abstract. And to do that we need to collect a few thoughts and concepts (Box 1 too) on the way. 2010s hype is described above, 2020s hype is... https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20071869 6/
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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@Iveyline@mastodon.nz @silsby@hcommons.social thank you both for the kind words! 🫶🏼
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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@danielscardoso@scholar.social @sejkko@mastodon.social Pita is a hilariously perfect surname for somebody who critiques the mainstream 🙂‍↕️
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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@abucci @Iris@scholar.social 🌿🤍
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 4mo ago
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OK, I will skip our examples & jump ahead a long way to highlight our error theory (= explanation on why we err when we reason this way; recall fig 1)! 1) confusion between map and territory 2) misunderstanding of understanding 3) no understanding can emerge from mechanism https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.20071869 9/
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago

RE: @olivia@scholar.social

Published!

What Does ‘Human-Centred AI’ Mean? https://doi.org/10.3390/bs16040583

Thank you to Andy Wills https://www.andywills.info for inviting me to his SI (Advanced Studies in Human-Centred AI) — and furthermore, for being up for me completely disagreeing with so many mainstream views on HCAI! Great reviews too.

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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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@drj@typo.social @mapto@masto.bg @CyberneticForests@assemblag.es him and Dennett are disappointingly bad on these issues
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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@sashag@anarres.family I don't know if you looked at the whole thread but for sure gender and race play a huge role, yes. And thanks for sharing.
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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@abucci I think @Iris@scholar.social has one?
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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@abucci @Iris@scholar.social also thank you so much for offering 🫡
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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@SeiriosB@mastodon.social Also Marcela is Mexican, but I know you also meant in Mexico. https://scholar.social/@olivia/116357032470708831
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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@librarysquirrel@sunny.garden @mapto@masto.bg @CyberneticForests@assemblag.es it has a bunch of names too because it's so common... see last lines in 3rd image https://scholar.social/@olivia/116543478951986061
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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@teixi@mastodon.social @andrea@scholar.social @Iris@scholar.social you'll like this https://scholar.social/@olivia/116380881064012882
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 4mo ago
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@sharlatan@mastodon.social oh, nice, enjoy
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 4mo ago
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@ojensen@hachyderm.io ahahaha I try not to open humans LMAO seems rude
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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@khinsen 😍 @Iris
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 2mo ago
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@Compeuter@mastodon.social no prob! thank you so much!
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 4mo ago
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@s0@cathode.church thanks, I think I already fixed it in the pdf a while back but that's a good catch
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Olivia Guest · Ολίβια Γκεστ @olivia@scholar.social
· 5mo ago
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@mapto@masto.bg @CyberneticForests@assemblag.es it's so common tho, depressing
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