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Delta Chat

@delta@chaos.social
mastodon 4.6.9
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Secure decentralized messaging across all major platforms. Instant and reliable via fast chatmail relays, compatible with classic email providers. Features secure mini web apps for fun and collaboration, end-to-end encrypted and with P2P realtime channels. Security-audited multiple times.

11311 Followers
622 Following
50 Posts
Joined August 19, 2018
Website:
https://delta.chat
Download:
https://get.delta.chat
Donate:
https://delta.chat/en/donate
Support Forum:
https://support.delta.chat
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3w ago
Boosted by @tchambers@indieweb.social
#deltachat is now evolving for 9 years. Among the currently active 15-20 contributors a majority joined 5+ years ago, with some joining in the very first year and a few only joining last year. Patience and perseverance is underrated when it comes to producing something that challenges the status quo of centralized mainstream messaging. Several competitors dropped out by now while many of us feel we are only getting started. A good read on the patience topic: https://www.joanwestenberg.com/p/your-edge-is-patience-not-genius?publication_id=7670699&post_id=215589276&isFreemail=true&r=rq5xj&triedRedirect=true
joanwestenberg.com

Your Edge Is Patience, Not Genius

Raw brainpower is overrated

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 2w ago
Who ever is in the vicinity of Hannover in lower sachsony this coming Friday, is invited to consider joining one of our long-term contributors for an afternoon session on "the new and old internet" in the Auditorium at https://liminale.digital/ Likely in german language. Nice stickers will be available :)
liminale.digital

liminale – Engineering Future

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
Telegram is an extreme security risk for its users, its developers and operators, holding data and metadata for over a billion people on central servers! Our decentralized zero-metadata messaging approach is diametrically opposed to such big-platform designs https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero But there is more: #chatmail relays are zero-state: you can wipe the relay's disks, create a new fresh setup, and users just continue chatting. Operators have actually done this. An *actually* state-less server :)
Delta Chat: Zero metadata, group descriptions, native audio/video calls and much more!
delta.chat

Delta Chat: Zero metadata, group descriptions, native audio/video calls and much more!

With the latest 2.48+ releases, a chat message reveals close to zero metadata to servers. For cryptographers and messenger enthusiasts, here are the key points on how we turned email very close to ...

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 4mo ago

Reminder: There are no accounts in the classic sense anywhere with #chatmail or #deltachat.

It's all private profiles on end user devices which co-ordinate in a #p2p fashion. Chat profiles *use* email (relay) addresses for transporting messages through a federated e2ee-restricted SMTP network.

A chat profile or chat group has zero data on the server. It's radically different from classic email servers, Whatsapp, Signal, XMPP and Matrix servers which host and control chat identity.

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
Boosted by @hypebot@tacocat.space
We’ve been busy building and releasing but it’s high time to share some major news: @sovtechfund@mastodon.social is investing nearly €500K into #chatmail This 18-month commitment supports chatmail maintainers keeping the core infrastructure secure and evolving, which is the backbone for: #DeltaChat @arcanechat @deltatouch@social.tchncs.de Parla on Gnome (cc @pancake@infosec.exchange ) and many chat bots A huge thank you to the Sovereign Tech Fund for investing in open, secure and decentralized communication! https://www.sovereign.tech/tech/chatmail
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago

We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense:

  • they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china

  • their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays

  • if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk

It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication.

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
Congrats to @protonprivacy@mastodon.social for beating us on introducing Post-Quantum Cryptography into mail messaging! No worries. We'll implement https://autocrypt2.org which additionally offers reliable deletion / forward secrecy during 2026 :) We are working with Proton cryptographers on OpenPGP specifications, and they are now moving towards using @rpgp@mastodon.social , the end-to-end encryption we are using. Everything will be based on RFC9580 (#OpenPGP v6) ... the eocsystem is moving :) https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 4mo ago

Good news among the bad news!

If the recent #0day attacks against Linux kernel+servers were launched against #chatmail relays, privacy of chatting with #deltachat is preserved. Why? Because we already assume the server could be actively hostile, and still not read or see any avatar, names or messages.

Since the March 2.48 zero-metadata releases relays/servers do not see cryptographic identities, and get no chance to launch "machine-in-the-middle" (MITM) attacks.

https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
It's hard these days to find a unifying description, or know about all the people and communities involved in #deltachat #chatmail #webxdc developments. One shared sentiment probably is wanting to develop anti-authoritarian technologies and cultures around it, and being opposed to authoritarian tech policy moves in the West, chat control, age verification, prescribing Google/Apple control, enforcing digital app use etc It's also a reason we are only posting on the fediverse bridged to bsky.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago

RE: @stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

The world-wide #chatmail relay network is growing in various wonderful ways. #freebsd joined the world-wide federated secure communication party and BSD cafe offers a public relay at https://chatmail.bsd.cafe :) Thanks @stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe @feld@friedcheese.us and @outofcreativity@exquisite.social !

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
Congratulations and shout out to our long-term collaborators from the @n0iroh@mastodon.social project for releasing Iroh V1! A major ugprade of the probably best Peer-to-Peer Rust networking library today: https://www.iroh.computer/blog/v1 In case you missed it: When running apps like https://webxdc.org/#amzd-radio-station chat members joins in a realtime and private Peer-to-Peer network using Iroh, and can listen to music together. The media streams travel via gossipping Peer-to-Peer connections, a bit BitTorrent style.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago

next #deltachat #ios version is coming with #liquidglass 🥛 thanks Amzd for the work. though frustrating being forced by #bigtech to do things that may not be loved and feel superfluous, it's wanted by many meanwhile.

there are still some things to tweak, we created an issue at https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-ios/issues/3157 . on-point help is welcome - and already ongoing thanks to some new contributors ❤️

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
Boosted by @kkarhan@jorts.horse
#deltachat user profiles are private and invisible to the public. No one can discover you, or your children, via phone numbers or any other public handle. Chat profiles exist only on user devices. No PIN and no "SMS verification code" ever asked or needed. The lack of "public discovery" also means you don't auto-discover others via phone numbers or other public handles. Getting in contact with others is "opt in": you scan a QR code or click an invite link to join a group or open a chat.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
Boosted by @hypebot@tacocat.space
RE: https://chaos.social/@delta/116505223145222985 All of the advances in #deltachat apps and the growth of the #chatmail relay network, wouldn't be possible without public funds and private donations, an estimated 800K EUR in 2026 ❤️ money goes to ~16 FOSS contributors with no money left for president, board or director salaries 🖤 Signal uses >50 Million per year, Telegram and Whatsapp 100's Millions, and they are all not building permission-free decentralized chat infra and apps, let alone secure mini app ecosystems https://webxdc.org
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@delta@chaos.social
We’ve been busy building and releasing but it’s high time to share some major news: @sovtechfund@mastodon.social is investing nearly €500K into #chatmail This 18-month commitment supports chatmail maintainers keeping the core infrastructure secure and evolving, which is the backbone for: #DeltaChat @arcanechat @deltatouch@social.tchncs.de Parla on Gnome (cc @pancake@infosec.exchange ) and many chat bots A huge thank you to the Sovereign Tech Fund for investing in open, secure and decentralized communication! https://www.sovereign.tech/tech/chatmail
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
We are migrating notifications.delta.chat, one of the few centralized systems we (need to) have - if you experience trouble with missed Google/Apple PUSH notifications, let us know. If you use the f-droid version, you are not affected. It should be over soon though :)
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
Boosted by @hypebot@tacocat.space
"it's always the receiver that determines the meaning of a message" is a famous opening quote at the first symposium on self organizing systems in Chicago, 1959. This and many other findings from those circles re-appear in our day to day discussions. We are doing next steps towards automating planet-wide decentralized onboarding, including in Internet islands, without resorting to a central list of relays. Good news: we have now officially lost track of even the number of existing relays 😂
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
A note on "#deltachat is going proprietary with #chatmail relays": 1) It's all based on IETF standards, with configuration and custom integration code fully FOSS and documented at: https://chatmail.at/doc/relay/ with hundreds of permission-free deployments. 2) We know of several alternative relay implementations and deployments 3) Own servers or big email providers can be used (YMMV) However it's fair to criticize our relentless focus on E2EE, and our moving away from email addresses as identity.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 4mo ago
Replying to
here are the full release notes: https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-android/releases/tag/v2.51.0 -- also a lot of bug fixes option cleanup, as we are continuing to make settings fail-safe and easy to understand for mass users, sometimes to the detriment of more nerdy configurations. However, contrary to some claims, using classic email server setups is fine, but you need to use a dedicated email address. Sharing an address with a different email client is not supported. If you have any issue, please report https://support.delta.chat
GitHub

Release v2.51.0 · deltachat/deltachat-android

Better incoming call system integration Calls are not experimental anymore and don't need to be manually enabled Calls can be answered by tapping messages Notify the user when they try to make a ca...

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
Making sure that deleted messages are actually deleted and unrecoverable is more involved than most folks think. The FBI could recently recover deleted Signal messages from an iOS phone because the notifications you see on your phone were stored in an extra database. Apple has now fixed this, also making #deltachat iOS users safer. Few know that so called "forward secrecy" is all about deleted messages becoming unrecoverable, see https://autocrypt2.org for our plans https://www.heise.de/en/news/FBI-extraction-of-deleted-Signal-messages-Apple-secures-iPhones-better-11269038.html
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago

What do you think is unique about the #deltachat project in the realm of secure cross-platform messaging?

You tell us :)

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@therainingmonkey@toot.wales You can go "Create profile" - "use other server" - "use classic email as relay", and in advanced options disable "enforce encryption on all relays". You can then receive and write (cleartext) emails and anyone with an email address. Own email servers, or big email providers can also be used. However, all default onboarding paths lead to strict end-to-end encryption, and the use of #chatmail relays. Mass-users need to have fail-safe onboarding and a fully working experience.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 4mo ago
Replying to

@tael@yiff.life

we can't offer a full comparison but here are three key points:

  1. Tox is not a cross-platform user offering like #deltachat, but more an infrastructure library like https://github.com/chatmail/core

  2. Tox can only transfer messages between contacts who are online at the same time. complicates mobile usage.

  3. Tox depends on a global distributed hash table (DHT) to find other contacts; doesn't work in highly restricted networks like during national internet shutdowns/larger failures etc.

GitHub

GitHub - chatmail/core: Chatmail Rust Core library, used by Android/iOS/desktop chatmail apps, bindings and bots 📧

Chatmail Rust Core library, used by Android/iOS/desktop chatmail apps, bindings and bots 📧 - chatmail/core

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@STP_KITT@mastd.racing We actually also got a lot of people being thankful that they could remove messages they had sent to the wrong chat, sometimes with sensitive info. See also https://www.typing.com/br/articles/making-digital-mistakes As to editing one's own messages, we didn't hear many complaints although in theory it could be problematic. Mostly it's used for typo-fixing and fixing some grammatical nonsense, or some inline web-link. #deltachat is meant for usage with somewhat trusted people, not unknown people who try to trick you.
typing.com

Making Digital Mistakes

Exploring People's Most Memorable Communication Blunders

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@hidikem @deltatouch @pancake @sovtechfund we edited the post to be clearer about the fact that neither Delta Chat nor the other chatmail clients are receiving funding. The chatmail infrastructure consists of "relay" setup templates and the "core chatmail library" that is used by all clients. More here https://chatmail.at
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@novarivera@mastodon.social @bjornsdottirs@evokegts.umbrellix.org our first pinned post here goes to a detailed description of (no) metadata in messages, including openpgp handling. The way #chatmail and #deltachat works and handles encryption and metadata-minimization is quite different from how email clients of the last ten years did it.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
Replying to

@alienghic@timeloop.cafe yes, and yes. that's what the smtp/email relay network is used for:

  1. Peers don't need to be online at the same time at all. And multiple devices are consistently synchronized.

  2. Each device is equal to other devices. If your first device dies, the second device will be just fine, and you can setup a another third from it.

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@Yuvalne @rpgp @protonprivacy @Tutanota indeed, and also signal has introduced PQC already. But we were implicitly talking about standards/specs based developments and interoperable solutions.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@arcanechat @pancake it's fine to call us out on the mixing of concerns. It was actually meant to direct some attention to other projects and not just put us in the center, but it also was confusing the message a bit, hopefully now sufficiently clarified. Let's maybe not discuss this here further if you can agree -- we can always open a chat group ;)
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@wechox@wxw.moe your chat contacts will get your changes in any next message you send them (including "read receipts"). Additionally group chat members gossip about each others latest relay setup.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@bjornsdottirs@evokegts.umbrellix.org maybe! or "ephemeral-state-only" or "automatic state-loss recoverability"? When we get to do a full architecture/security doc, we will need to refine terminology , for sure.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@eltheanine you can add a "relay" (another email server) and then phase out the old one, thereby migrating. See https://delta.chat/en/help#relays and https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero#maximizing-availability-and-resilience-through-multi-path-delivery
Delta Chat: FAQ
delta.chat

Delta Chat: FAQ

What is Delta Chat? Delta Chat is a reliable, decentralized and secure instant messaging app, available for mobile and desktop platforms. Instant creation of private chat profiles with secure and i...

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@matiu_bidule@mamot.fr @therainingmonkey@toot.wales since relays and instant onboarding, usage numbers have gone up a lot, and community activities multiplied. But no question, the use case of cleartext email, and getting a nice chat interface for (mostly) cleartext email, and using email addresses as identity to address someone, has been demoted in the last two years. We understanding the sadness. But that happened because "just use your email" was for many years *not* a mass-user compatible selling point.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@fluidlogic@oldbytes.space @Roquette@neopaquita.es Onboarding new people works best based on real-life situations. There is no global discovery, so usage has to start "small". We already have polls that highlight 67% of users struggle with this step. You are not alone. But it's also hardly a unique issue of Delta Chat. Almost any messenger app that is not named WhatsApp or Telegram has that. The top post was asking about what is unique :)
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@ander_dapo we provide more detailed transparency among core contributors, but no public financial reporting, except for key characteristics like we wrote in posts today, or in past ones about not taking Venture Capital or Crypto-coin funding etc. Much of our work and all of our released artifacts are publicly visible, reusable and modifiable by anyone permission-free. But it does not imply that "we" and our internal structures and co-operations can or want to become publicly transparent.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 4mo ago
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@nihkeys@mastodontti.fi There is documentation about various areas of the project, what exactly are you looking for? https://cosmos.delta.chat/ gives an overview about the components of the ecosystem. We also plan to publish a security whitepaper later this year, if that's your angle.
Delta Chat Cosmos
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Delta Chat Cosmos

Links to various neighbourhoods in the Delta Chat universe

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@lutindiscret @deltatouch @sovtechfund chatmail relays, and the associated email infrastructure, are evolving quite a lot but we don't post much about it here. #chatmail infrastructure also is the *core Rust library* which is used by all the clients, so it's not just the "server" side. See also https://chatmail.at
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
Boosted by @tchambers@indieweb.social
Replying to
@mtrigo@mastodon.social it's usually better to find a phone-wide solution to protecting individual app access. Moreover, there are many real-world threats where an app lock does not help at all, unfortunately. FWIW you can backup your account to a file, store it remotely, delete Delta Chat, and and re-instate it all later when needed and safe again. To discuss this more in depth, it's better to move to the https://support.delta.chat
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@_mosso If you add multiple relays to your profile and change between them, you will appear as the same contact, both in 1:1 and group chats. Internally since Delta Chat v2 all contacts in encrypted chats (the ones not marked with an envelope icon) are identified by their OpenPGP key, and it does not matter from which email address the message arrives, so when you switch to another address your contacts will likely not even notice unless they look in debug info.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@marcozehe Go to your existing profile. Settings. Advanced. Relays. And add a relay there.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@fluidlogic@oldbytes.space best place to ask and get more background is https://support.delta.chat Also in the FAQ there is info like on channels: https://delta.chat/en/help#channels
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Delta Chat

You need Delta Chat support? Ask the Community!

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@upofadown @Yuvalne @rpgp @protonprivacy @Tutanota Autocrypt2 works with any standard v6 implementation. See https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-autocrypt-openpgp-v2-cert-01.html#name-identifying-an-autocrypt-v2 -- in any case, this is exceeding what should be discussed here. Feel free to open an issue on https://codeberg.org/autocrypt2/autocrypt-v2-cert
ietf.org

Autocrypt v2 OpenPGP Certificates and Transferable Secret Keys

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@pancake sorry. we edited the original post, reads clearer? Otherwise drop a DM but please keep in mind we have a 500 char limit and dopn't want to rewrite the whole post :)
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@dummzeuch we strive towards making relay selection completely automatic, but for now we want to make sure it works at all, and smooth around the edges ;)
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@_mosso You can switch the sending relay at any time. If you send a message and sending gets stuck because the sending relay is not reachable, you can select another relay for sending and keep sending messages. There is no automatic "failover" yet.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@kallekn it's also possible to add a relay after all others are dead. so there is no big benefit to add many relays a priori. the current limit is five.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 5mo ago
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@bituur_esztreym@pouet.chapril.org it was about #chatmail relays https://chatmail.at/relays
Chatmail: Relays
chatmail.at

Chatmail: Relays

Chatmail provides FOSS infrastructure for interoperable, secure, speedy and reliable end-to-end encrypted messaging. Check out clients as Arcane Chat, Bots or Delta Chat today!

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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@novarivera@mastodon.social @bjornsdottirs@evokegts.umbrellix.org No, but it is discouraged. There are situations where you need to (or want to) use a classic mail address for relaying, even if it doesn't offer good metadata protection. It depends on the threat model of the people involved whether it is risky.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@collective_truth@mastodon.social it's using WebRTC with mandatory end-to-end encryption which internally gets negotiated through end-to-end encrypted chat signalling messages.
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Delta Chat @delta@chaos.social
· 3mo ago
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@collective_truth@mastodon.social no, video distribution is a quite different topic and challenge than supporting 1:1 calls in chats.
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