“ai alignment” is all over the news today. too bad it’s not a real thing. it’s pure cult fantasy wrapped up in pr.
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@aparrish@friend.camp imagine if we had done that before it was so deeply integrated ...
i’d love to share a current #caturday photo, but she hasn’t come out from under the blankets. so here’s one from a few days ago.
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@inthehands@hachyderm.io Norbert Wiener wrote in 1948, in the book that defined Cybernetics:
"Let us remember that the automatic machine is the precise economic equivalent of slave labor. Any labor which competes with slave labor must accept the economic consequences of slave labor.”
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@cwebber my partner just did in his early 40's! it was the best thing he's ever done, for all of us. :)
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@inthehands@hachyderm.io imo the language that did this best, and is always missing from these histories, is Logo... an amazing way to learn computation and computational thinking.
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@aparrish@friend.camp yes! i love this. that’s kind of where the summer Computer Class programme that i run with @scr@assemblag.es came from. tbh it’s a really fruitful way to think about programming, and teaching.
has it changed your plans for this class?
convenience and ease (especially under capitalism) almost always come at the cost of external waste/extraction/exploitation and deskilling.
... something something "conservation of energy" something ...
for example ...
we have non-stick cookware. it makes cooking easier because you don't have to have the knowledge and skill to know how to use and maintain stainless steel or cast iron (or etc). people don't learn the skills to cook or maintain "forever cookware" anymore ... the cost for that ease and convenience is that non-stick pans are disposable and often made with "forever chemicals"
... so instead of learning to maintain a pan that will last hundreds of years and is functionally non-stick if you know how to use it, we taught generations to use a product that is pure waste and failed to teach them the skills to end the cycle of waste, or even know that it doesn't need to be wasteful like this.
some people still learn to use more robust and sustainable cookware, but it's become more of a "hobby" or "interest" rather than a cultural norm, or the domain of professionals.
.... now do "ai" ...
I have a new album out today on the fantastic label Nibble.
Available as a limited run cassette with individual covers, or as an infinite supply of digital downloads.
"community hub" is out now.
it's a dead kennedy's day for me, and it's feeling more relevant than ever.
"We're sorry, but you're no longer needed
Or wanted, or even cared about here
Machines can do a better job than you
And this is what you get for asking questions
The unions agree: "Sacrifices must be made"
Computers never go on strike
To save the working man
You've got to put him out to pasture"
(soup is good food, 1985)
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@mia@cathode.church i still prefer that interpretation to something you have to know dune references to get
so-called “ai” companies are replicating the power structure of organized christianity, specifically catholicism. the church believes that only the ordained can communicate with god, everyone else just needs to pray and ask the priest for anything else.
“ai” is attempting to put a gate up in front of computation. only the “ai” owners (priests) can change the program (talk to god directly). this is how they envision a new technocratic society.
like the church used illiteracy as a tool for domination, so does the “ai” industry. the less we all know about how our technological systems work, the more power concentrates in the “church” …
considering that a lot of them also believe they are creating a god (“agi”), this moment is less
industrial revolution and more spanish inquisition.
i cancelled my mullvad @mullvadnet@mastodon.online (via tailscale) and so are you.
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@oatmeal yep, i have been boycotting them for years already. just want to spread the word about more horrible things they're doing ...
there are a few artists (music, visual, etc) that have influenced my practice and aesthetic sensibilities very deeply. sometimes it seems like anything i’m doing that feels new is just waiting for me to rediscover that it basically already exists in one of these few artist’s work lol
not that originality is that important to me tbh. but it does make me laugh when i put on an album that i loved 20 years ago and realize that my new idea is already on there. :)
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@aparrish in theory it can be done rigorously, but in my decades in the field i have never encountered it.
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@Cognessence@social.linux.pizza @oscillik@mstdn.social @sean_ae@post.lurk.org @elifyalvac@tldr.nettime.org @Rushup_Dee@mastodon.social i feel my splines reticulating already
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@fcr@post.lurk.org ars has always been the military-industrial/corporate line into media art and technology …. they don’t want to ruin that now by having ethics …
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@mralancooper@hachyderm.io @toxi@mastodon.thi.ng @skry@mastodon.social just adding a YES to alan's explanation here... i spent 15 years in the industry fighting for good interaction design and being thwarted or even ridiculed at every step. i solved it for myself by getting out of the industry.
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@inthehands@hachyderm.io @acb@mastodon.social also dishwashers etc don't occupy the same economic (and ethical) place in our society as industrial automation et al...
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@tante@tldr.nettime.org @lrhodes@merveilles.town which is another example of a thing our society treats as an individual "choice/consequence" problem rather than a social issue to resolve socially.
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@Cognessence@social.linux.pizza @oscillik@mstdn.social @sean_ae@post.lurk.org @elifyalvac@tldr.nettime.org @Rushup_Dee@mastodon.social i learned a lot ... about pronoun inversion and grammar substitution lol
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@Cognessence@social.linux.pizza @oscillik@mstdn.social @sean_ae@post.lurk.org @elifyalvac@tldr.nettime.org @Rushup_Dee@mastodon.social yes! i loved those. it also introduced me to rube goldberg.
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@Cognessence@social.linux.pizza @oscillik@mstdn.social @sean_ae@post.lurk.org @elifyalvac@tldr.nettime.org @Rushup_Dee@mastodon.social i’ll never forget my summer with dr. sbaitzo.
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@Cognessence@social.linux.pizza @oscillik@mstdn.social @sean_ae@post.lurk.org @elifyalvac@tldr.nettime.org @Rushup_Dee@mastodon.social if you’re making weird shit with sim city 2k sounds i want in. reticulate me.
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@neauoire@merveilles.town markdown is a total mess... no standard, low semantic meaning ... html, xml, org-mode are all so much better and more expressive. yes, html is "more typing" (maybe), but then you have an actual readable structured document.
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@nasser one of my favourite books. very challenging in some ways, even today and for people who are already in anarchism etc.
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@aparrish i mean, if you have a made up practice why not have made up methods involving made up people.
more firmware updaters should say “let’s party” when finished
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@zilog@post.lurk.org @toxi@mastodon.thi.ng hard agree. tbh this is a huge part of what pushed me out of the field.
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@oscillik@mstdn.social @Cognessence@social.linux.pizza @sean_ae@post.lurk.org @elifyalvac@tldr.nettime.org @Rushup_Dee@mastodon.social i was also doing that. they are not mutually exclusive :)
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@hellocatfood @trashpandaqc my students always want to learn TD, but i won't teach it in class because of the licensing (mainly)... i try to only teach with free/open software so that students never feel like they need a lot of money to make this kind of work.
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@davey_cakes you might enjoy my new artwork that mocks this exact sentiment — https://ngmi.emenel.ca/