Daphne Preston-Kendal

In general, I think Codeberg stands for a future in which people are a lot more suspicious of free goodies given to the FOSS community by for-profit companies. But it also stands for a world in which self-hosting is not the only practical alternative to the present situation. We stand for community-run infrastructure, volunteering to provide a common good, and making decisions for the benefit of all.

And I have a positive example for this, too: our Pages service was going to go away because nobody wanted to maintain it any more. But we asked the community, and they really wanted a Pages service. So a heroic volunteer (thank you @whitequark) stepped up to write us new infrastructure, and our infra team found the time and motivation to work on patching up the existing infra. And now the future of Codeberg Pages is safe – because the community told us they wanted it.

So no, we don’t offer massive CI resources, unlimited repo quotas, etc. What we offer is different: if self-hosting isn’t for you, but you still want to know that your repo hosting is not at the whims of Microsoft’s bottom line, Codeberg is for you. If the Codeberg service you depend on goes away, it won’t be from one day to the next in order to boost our income. We will warn you about the reasons, ask you and the other members what you think, and you’ll have a chance to change things.

Some other people were concerned about our uptime in comparison to GitHub. Fortunately, GitHub has recently been taking care of that concern for us 😅 My personal feeling, as a user, is that Codeberg’s uptime is acceptable for what the site provides. If you are seriously messed up by your forge maybe being down for an hour or two a week, don’t use Codeberg: self-host! Fortunately, as a FOSS site, the chance of anything as important as a ‘profit margin’ depending on our uptime is very low :-)

@jschauma@mstdn.social @janl@narrativ.es after you dismiss 10 pop-up ads and stop the autoplay MIDI

The cloud providers and the AI companies are the same companies, and what they have learned is that they can tie up all the high-end hardware for themselves and make it unaffordable for plebs The hardware companies in turn will be happy to keep prices high even if raw materials are ever more easily available again and demand is (somewhat) lower

Moderatorially speaking, we tend to regard accounts with *only* private repos as a red flag (and such people who have accounts like that are usually rejected as active/voting members if they apply). But they’re allowed as long as their size remains reasonable. The rules are there because unfortunately, we do see blatant abuse of our resources (like people uploading their whole home directory to a private repo as a personal backup). I think we should work on making our rules about this clearer!

Something else I saw is that our messaging on what private repositories can be used for with us is not clear enough. To take the opportunity to clarify here: • Private repositories are absolutely allowed, but subject to rules, just like public repositories are subject to rules • Using a private repository for a software project that you’re not yet ready to release publically is absolutely okay • Using a private repository for personal software you wrote for your own use only is absolutely okay

There are a couple of options being explored here:

1. We could maybe offer some things like increased quotas to association members. That has been mentioned before as a possibility but no action towards this has been taken yet afaik.

2. Some interested members of Codeberg have, in their private capacity, been investigating offering e.g. a hosted CI runner service that would have seamless integration with Codeberg.

Nothing solid on either front yet, though.

There are limitations that come with being a non-profit association in Germany. Something that was mentioned in the thread is why don’t we let people and organizations pay for more resources. One answer – apart from the fact that we’ve only just reached the size where we start to get such requests – is that, under our current legal form, we can’t really do this. A non-profit association cannot offer commercial services.

Cloud providers will have identified self-hosting, community-organized services, and digital sovereignty campaigns as a threat, in the same way Microsoft identified free software as a threat in the 1990s and 2000s, and they will want to stamp out that threat. Keeping prices high to make self-hosting uneconomical is one way to do this

(This thread reflects only my own views and not those of the remainder of the Codeberg presidium, board – nor (most importantly) does it reflect the views of the members of Codeberg as a whole, who ultimately make the decisions.)

Isn’t it curious how Apple has brought out its cheapest laptop ever at a time when hardware is otherwise at its most expensive in a long time? It’s an underpowered client for cloud services Welcome to the future of computing. The ‘thin client’ dream of the 90s is here!

(Also, I will at this point plead size. Our small infra team is frequently overworked to the point that I’m often concerned about the effect on their personal health. Again, please become a member and get involved) (Furthermore, this thread reflects only my own views and not those of the remainder of the Codeberg presidium, board – nor (most importantly) does it reflect the views of the members of Codeberg as a whole, who ultimately make the decisions.)

(This thread reflects only my own views and not those of the remainder of the Codeberg presidium, board – nor (most importantly) does it reflect the views of the members of Codeberg as a whole, who ultimately make the decisions.)

And yes, what I am describing between cloud providers and hardware manufacturers is an illegal cartel Does it look like the current US administration would do anything to stop them? Does it look like the current US administration is going anywhere in the next, oh, ten to fifty years?

@jonny@neuromatch.social @n0toose@chaos.social We’re working on it!

@whitequark *Aperture Science 1500 Megawatt Regulated Wall Cube

@zeank @janl I learned only this weekend that this is considered vital in German university education and is considered a waste of time on the other side of the Atlantic, with various in-between shades in other European countries

Unfortunately I fear the structural failure here is too big for us to save it (we’ll find out some of that later today when the administrator explains the situation to us), but I think everyone loves this company and knows that our prospects elsewhere are currently universally worse, so maybe it’s worth talking about

@wezm HIG violation (Don’t use yes/no dialog boxes)

@saagar@federated.saagarjha.com @fogti@chaos.social I am slightly more cruel and say the two types are Lisp and assembly, but yeah

@dysfun@social.treehouse.systems @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems okay boomer

@jaffathecake To be clear, if you have had a change of heart, that’s great But just own the fact that you took Google’s money and in exchange you worked on getting them enough market dominance and webdev mindshare dominance to let them do this kind of thing now

@dee@social.treehouse.systems @fogti@chaos.social I tried that in January last year (with iodine, admittedly, not quite that method) and they seemed to be rate limiting DNS queries so it didn’t work :-(

@codecat I don’t foresee any problems there, but I‘m not deep in the technical issues of federation. Perhaps @n0toose could say more, although I suspect that sort of thing is still a way down the development roadmap

@ljrk@todon.eu This article should be renamed ‘how to date AuDHD people’: • may be shy • give nice sensations and fabrics that are nice to touch • prefer direct communication style • provide reassurance to help against fear of social rejection, especially be very cuddly • may also be stubborn

no more cheap weekend hacks https://youtube.com/watch?v=HeX22LnKdFY

@saagar@federated.saagarjha.com @fogti@chaos.social Also, Python and Java have automatic memory management and bounds checking; you can’t call them C

@lina@ohai.social @lemgandi@mastodon.social they all keep taking money away from bicycle-of-the-mind infrastructure to build information superhighways

I have no plans for this weekend and something this week has activated my sociality circuits so I am excited to meet people

@0xabad1dea @ireneista I honestly think it’s mostly just that the Silicon Valley Brain is incapable of not designing a panopticon even if it’s not explicitly trying to make one

@bsdphk @krans I want to see this guy and the GNU Algol 68 guy go head to head in an argument

@leah PiS is Poland

@Silversnapples@mastodonapp.uk @semitones@tiny.tilde.website That is clearly an edit of the 1972 photo ‘The Blue Marble’ into some moon-looking foreground (looks itself like a fake) (You don’t claim otherwise in your toot, but given recent events it might be interpreted as a new, real photo taken by the Artemis crew)

@lindsey Like how in Arrow’s theorem you can totally have a voting system that satisfies Condorcet’s criterion and the independence of irrelevant alternatives … as long as that ‘voting system’ is just one guy making the decision alone

I am very surprised that ordering by date is less popular for tags than for branches Perhaps I should have explained that alphabetical order causes tag orderings like v0.1 < v0.11 < v0.2 < v0.3 …, which is entirely correct if your version numbers behave like decimal fractions and completely wrong if your version numbers behave like lexicographically-sorted series of integers separated by dots The latter is more popular nowadays, but using ‘natural’ ordering by name then breaks the other case

@Taneb@hacksrus.xyz @sperbsen@discuss.systems may (or may not) be able to help

@david_chisnall @jwz For what it’s worth, APFS checksums only metadata, not data

(For tags you have the date the tag was created if there’s a specific tag object, created with the -a, -s, or -u options to ‘git tag’, rather than just a ref directly to a commit)

@sero_one @zeank @janl Yeah, my fiancé was at an FH and I don’t recall him ever telling me about having classes like this … I’ll ask him later

Git tags should be ordered (by default)