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If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by.

Splitting words so as to break the force of the laws; confounding names so as to change what had been definitely settled; practising corrupt ways so as to throw the government into confusion: all guilty of these things were put to death.

Keep your safety in mind and don't make loud statements for which you might go to the places not-so-far-from-here, because there you will help no one.
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· 6mo ago
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@coolboymew >62 g of salt shotgun to the kidneys
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· 6mo ago
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@jonah@mastodon.neat.computer ancient robotic media had robots SPEAK. LIKE. THIS. WITH. HALTING. ENGLISH. the original motivation was to simulate robot inferiority with language, but a new reason to have some distinct robot dialect like that, is to prevent AI's relentless lack of creativity from burning out tolerance for real human speech patterns. The "it's not X, it's emphatic Y" is even worse. However AI speaks, it speaks that way so frequently that it becomes psychically painful to encounter that speech.
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· 5mo ago
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@MontgomeryGator @CursedSilicon @futurebird >Their only other comment you're fediblocking me and making analyses in ignorance of that. You're lobotomized yourself and are happy about it. You're also using 'singular they', which is worse than any enemy-identification label that you use for no other reason but to indulge in wrath, like a man indulging too much in lust. Your fight against 'nazis' like the OP's fight against 'fascism' is only an act of masturbation, which is why you see it so eagerly in other people.
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· 5mo ago
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@idiot >you will see him once and never again without an ifunny watermark reminded of mortality like this, on a Tuesday?
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· 5mo ago
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@technolyze@whinge.town @Goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital @coolboymew@shitposter.world it's still very believable that he came to dislike loli from seeing the same IPs post it that posted CP. "Free speech imageboard admin" is a rare perspective that gets exposed to a lot of glowing shit. But any kind of cute aggression is suspicious behavior.
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· 6mo ago
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@galgadotisawhore @Wormwood you're on a train and reach your stop and the doors open to surprise wet concrete. Do you a. sigh at the poor government planning, wait until the next stop, and suffer the immediate personal inconvenience with the understanding your stop will at least be less shit the next time you see it b. walk over the wet concrete. Fuck whoever did this. Get that team back out here to fix it when I'm not here. I've got things to do and shouldn't have to suffer for someone else's mistake. Everyone in the video knows that it's wet concrete and knows it's being ruined. It's not so much a matter of intelligence that this may as well be a cattle car unloading, even though it'd look the same. Cattle would not understand the situation and would be unknowingly doing what these Indians are knowingly doing. It's a matter of virtue. Which is a few indirections removed from intelligence, like a ** pointer.
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· 5mo ago
Thanks to Trump it's cheaper to fly to Japan, shop locally, and then smuggle the goods back without disclosure, than to import the same products.

Not immediately. It's not cheaper to fly to pick up a box of pocky. But the curves pass incredibly quickly.
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· 6mo ago
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@monsignor_dickface >He's so lucky she's paused her entire identity "email job" isn't an identity. >sacrificed her salary *families* have income. Families have outgo. It's cheaper and more satisfying to raise a family. The family is actually the point. The email job isn't fulfilling, it won't bring the grandchildren around, it won't comfort you in your old age, it will abandon you to die alone.
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· 5mo ago
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@Terry@poa.st >deliver the US a crippling strategic defeat >wait guys, you're short-sighted if you want to accept the defeat the cost isn't going down. At every stage we would've eaten less dirt from not going forward with the doomed war. At every stage we chose to be "long-sighted" in this manner, we made the problem worse. If you want to be long-sighted, look past the dollar. The American population isn't going to turn into smoke. We have all of these incredible technological advancements, right? Use that. Ask AI how to arrest everyone involved with the Federal Reserve.
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· 5mo ago
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@BadFediPosts@tsundere.love this image is a year old, right?
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· 5mo ago
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@technolyze@whinge.town @Goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital @coolboymew@shitposter.world I always thought he had a pretty good head on his shoulders, but the most suspicious point about him was disliking awoo. He hates awoo. He hates "that fucking anime dog."
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· 5mo ago
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@Terry >CVILLE-ITY awww. civility. We *do* need civility! What a nice message! Meanwhile in the real world, Charlottesville proved to me that blue districts are lawless hellholes that are dangerous even to pass through, where you can't expect justice, where you can't expect the police to even perform the basic function of "trying to prevent a conflict between groups of rioters", where mutual combat ends in you getting railroaded and the other side compensated. Charlottesville got Heather Heyer killed by deliberately blowing up some tame speeches in front of a statue, causing the attendees to have to flee through mob gauntlets in the street, and then not clearing the streets. The mayor wanted people in the streets, wanted the mob, to make it more of a spectacle. Well, people die in mobs. America was already dead and the death just hasn't been formalized yet. On the anniversary of that, instead of acknowledging it, instead of resisting it, just pretend that all that happened was a temporary breakdown in civility. This is the same phenomena as journalists blaming unrest on hot weather.
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· 6mo ago
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@KiKi88 the backstory is that a local artisan told a horse girl to take more care around his garden gnomes. To spite him, she came around every night and had her horse shit on his lawn. One day she gets this picture in the mail, a porcelain clone of her favorite horse.
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· 5mo ago
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@anonaccount it should be immediate, right? I mean Netabyahu was super on the ball with lamenting Charlie Kirk's assassination. What could explain a delay in such an obviously useful case here? a. Israel had advance notice of the Kirk thing somehow... b. it's a weekend c. Israel's in a different timezone, idiot d. Netanyahu can't really speak off-the-cuff after his AI immortalization
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· 5mo ago
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@CursedSilicon if a gradeschool teacher had given you social permission to hate on some other dubious label, like "un-welcome-ists", you'd beat this version of yourself to death.
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· 6mo ago
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@Terry >aircraft intended to carry the airmen were disabled excuse I guess is: don't worry, those were spares and were not actually needed to carry the airmen. We flew in with 300% capacity with the idea that we might lose 1 or 2.
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· 5mo ago
>During the US-led invasion of Iraq, a 2,0i00-strong American intelligence unit was asked to identify targets on the ground for western troops.
>In Operation Epic Fury against Iran, 20 troops can carry out the same workload.
a bit of AI skepticism is how you can avoid killing ~167 school girls. You don't need a lot.
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· 5mo ago
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@get@clubcyberia.co FISA's also getting pushed. I don't really buy that this the ballroom is deliberate misdirection for FISA, since both are happening anyway, but politicians are conspiracy theorists too and automatically try to play an assumed role in any conspiracy, so I still buy that people like Fetterman are going along with "deliberate misdirection" of actually pushing FISA while pretending that the issue is this random thing that Trump is personally irritated by.
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· 5mo ago
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@Hoss@shitpost.cloud Subaru cheats death repeatedly. Kazuma doesn't cheat and has no special powers apart from his charisma and high tolerance for insane chicks. Mostly. That a goddess argued him back to life, that happened too. He has the writer on his side which isn't a reliable cheat - it depends on the genre.
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· 6mo ago
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@Terry @Leoban if you press enough, you'll get a Motte and Bailey. No, terror-bombing civilians out of frustration with your inability to secure a military win, that's really not going to move a government from 'stable' to 'collapsed'. But terror-bombing can be a useful excuse for an already collapsing government. When the status is "collapse progress: 99%" but that last 1% is still holding, with the terror-bombing and everyone can say: OK, fuck it, let's just surrender.

That's the other story with Japan. It's not that nuke were more threatening than

  1. lose the entire Navy
  2. get constantly bombed
  3. lose on land
  4. have the victors in Europe turn to finish you off, with the Soviets declaring war
  5. have already been fighting for years and taken horrific losses and resorted to kamikaze attacks but nukes were shocking enough that the Japanese could accept defeat.

In short: Trump is entirely delusional about Iran's perspective on this and believes his own bullshit about Iran wanting to surrender, and terror-bombing Iran he hopes will give Iranians a solid excuse to do what they already want to do.

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· 5mo ago
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@Hoss@shitpost.cloud election night?! It'll take the Democrats at least a few weeks to impeach him... Try a nice callback to the Obama years, with a big-face T-shirt, and on the back: STILL MY PRESIDENT A bunch of defiant post-removal slogans.
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· 6mo ago
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@Shadowman311 >The bike lock, indirectly. This is actually a nearly universally-held view! In the form of: wars stimulate the inventiveness of man, we only went to the moon on the strength of WWII, etc. Straight line from that position to wanting to live around a criminal element that can stimulate the production of personal security, home security, and shatter-resistant glass.
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· 5mo ago
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@fatepony YOU ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR RAPE DON'T LET SOME HATER SAY YOU DON'T DESERVE IT.
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· 5mo ago
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@egirlyuumimain >men need to have an extremely high value on female chastity >btw sex work is real work, body counts don't matter, remember to have fun in your 20s, remember to delay marriage, remember not to have children, how about this convenient surgical implant that sterilizes you for years at a time?
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· 5mo ago
>Netanyahu entered the courtroom today for his corruption trial.
OK, it wasn't AI Lich Netanyahu, where Israel used AI to pretend he wasn't dead, but AI Coward Netanyahu, who used AI to pretend that he wasn't safely in Germany where the Wings of Zion retreated to.
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· 5mo ago
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@TrevorGoodchild >Holocaust I entirely forgot about that!

My least favorite Wyatt take was his triumphant celebration of Ukraine 'breaching' Russia's defensive line in the 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive, in which the reality was

  1. this happened after 3 solid months of no movement except for Ukraine feeding Leopards into mines and losing entire columns before ever even seeing Russians
  2. there were three defensive lines and the 'breach' was not actually through the outermost line
  3. the 'breach' was into a totally hopeless valley overlooked by fire, it was a cul-de-sac that Ukraine's second or third army of the conflict was buried into for no rational military reason

Wyatt take: this breach means that Ukraine's already won and is going to wrap this up in a matter of weeks. The defense is broken and will crumble rapidly now. My take: that anyone's excited by this breach means that Ukraine's already lost and we're not going to hear about any Ukrainian victories ever again outside of (I thought post-war!) acts of terrorism.

Because I made such a strong argument I felt compelled to follow the front more closely after that, which was indeed a huge waste of time. That's what's so painful about the take.

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· 5mo ago
great feat of the day: try to find some pity in your heart for the Whitehouse staffer that has to explain to Trump that negotiations are going poorly because "Iran believes that they won the war."
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· 5mo ago
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@pinemarten fortunately this kind of grimy shit doesn't actually accomplish anything, it just destroys Apple. Elon Musk also did not crown Pahlavi as Iran's Shah when he changed Iran's flag on twitter.
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· 6mo ago
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@EvolLove @Synclair >kill every "fighting-age male" you see >ambulances show up for some reason definitely an evil pot. Glad that our guys foiled it.
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· 6mo ago
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@Sovereign last I heard, this was attributed to an Iranian that got hit by a hellfire missile in the crash area.
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· 6mo ago
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@Terry meanwhile cirnosad is losing his shit on twitter, thinks the rescue failed completely and that deaths will be laundered / that it's suspicious that the pilot wasn't named until the 'rescue'. >THE RESCUE PLANES ARE LITERALLY ON FIRE YOU FAGGOT. >Did they teleport out of Iran? My faith in the military's such that I thought CSAR could succeed, and that we'd definitely try to get the pilots out, and that it's an evil lie (conflating Americans with Israelis!) to say that we'd try to kill the pilot to avoid him becoming a hostage. But, it's not enough to think we wouldn't lie to the moon and back about the details, about casualties, about collateral damage, and even claim success after the op is a complete failure. There's been too much dishonesty already with laundered deaths and losses.
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· 5mo ago
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@Terry pinbal:

The normie's understanding of society is basically Hume's billard table. Stuff just "happens" and nobody can say why, there is no discernable causation, no causal interrelation between any of the parts. This is what "but how does this affect you personally?" means. "Dude why do you care about your own country's domestic/foreign policy? How does this affect you?" ...Oh wow a sudden economic downturn, food is now 4x more expensive. Nobody could have predicted this" To the normie it's all an unpredictably random aggregate of occurrences. where the normie is clearly the intended result. Nobody knows economics enough to suspect that it might be bad to have a government counterfeiter (or that this even differs from historical mints), and nobody has enough of a functional memory even to notice when programs are started for reasons that are then forgotten:

  1. two weeks to flatten the curve. Did anyone still supporting lockdowns a year later even remember "flatten the curve", or what these words meant?
  2. if even 30% of the public gets the vaccine, the pandemic will be over. Well, more than 30% got it. Why are you mandating the vaccine and wanting to punish refusers?
  3. children and healthy people aren't basically have no risk from Covid. The big danger is actually that so many people will spread it while not even noticing the infection, it's so weak! Why you vaccinating the military and children?
  4. evolutionary pressure on viruses is towards more infectious but less deadly variants. Every single lauded new variant of Covid followed this trend exactly. Why are you fearmongering this new weaker variant of the already weak disease?
  5. the most highly mutable portion of the covid virus is the spike protein. That's going to change a lot as the virus mutates naturally. ... why does this vaccine work by producing only an old variant's spike protein?
  6. the vaccine is promised to not affect the body outside of the injection site. None of the material leaves the injection site. No cells outside of the injection site are modified by the mRNA. It's just some modified muscle tissue that trains the immune system to fight covid until the modified cells are destroyed. Hey, look, there's mRNA elsewhere in the body! Is that not weird?
  7. we need sanctions on Russia so that Russia can't afford military action and to provoke a civilian uprising and then regime change. Well, it's been four years of Russia doing just fine on both respects, after 20 more rounds of sanctions, so why does German industry still need to die off?
  8. Bombing Serbia is OK because political secession is a sacred right of self-determination of peoples. Why is it bad that Crimea left Ukraine to be with Russia? Why is it bad that these regions of Ukraine are fighting to leave Ukraine? Why is it bad for Russia to intervene like the US did?

People act like you can't comment on any of this stuff without being an "expert". Well motherfucker I'm an expert in remembering what YOU YOURSELF told me two weeks ago.

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· 5mo ago
More than a hundred years ago, a popular improvement to responsiveness with online computer games was to reduce your OS's MTU size, so that the game would send more frequent and smaller TCP packets, rather than batching them as a throughput optimization.
I don't care about faster downloads, man, I care about ONLINE LAG.

In the decades since, all of mankind seems to have performed this optimization on the human brain. And in professional and social life, I'm frequently irritated by people who communicate to me in very small packets.

In turn I irritate people with very large packets.
In general my frustration is this message:
>hey
with nothing after. I have to respond just to hear what this guy actually wants from me. Why don't you just say it? Why don't you provide a complete technical question, that I could just answer? Why are you wasting everyone's time?

I made some kind of a wish on a monkey's paw when I wanted more responsive games.
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· 5mo ago
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@TrueMasterCole >Hey, we didn't mine for the Strait for weeks. Bet you feel pretty dumb for making us mine it as well, huh? followed by >I don't know why you're complaining so hard. This Trump Truth from Truth Social says that you can de-mine it very easily.
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· 5mo ago
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@maid Q: why did normies go to it? A: because wages were pushed way up, turning it into a gold rush, and gold rushes draw trash to anything Q: why were wages pushed way up? A: because of the dotcom bubble, in which demand for programmers skyrocketed, with the demand coming from businesses engaged in impossible and unprofitable enterprises Q: why did the businesses do that? Why would a guy start a company and then waste his own money? A: it was investor money that was wasted. The company leaders and the investors both were high on a templated sales patch on the internet itself, which was then already an obvious game-changer and "the future", even if its real advantages wouldn't translate really translate to the enterprises started to exploit it (modern example: AI) Q: ok, the guy who starts the company isn't using his own money and has less incentive to guard it, but that what about the investor? The investor is using his own money, why wasn't he guarding it? Some of these businesses were laughably doomed! A: the investor is ALSO not using his own money. Q: and the guy behind the investor? When do we finally get to someone with an incentive to not take a loss in a gamble? A: we never get there. Instead, we get to the Federal Reserve. Engineering sucks now because of the Federal Reserve.
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· 5mo ago

Trump's immediate problem: the Strait is closed and this is is giving Iran incredible leverage. Trump: blocking it gives leverage? OK! We should block it then!

Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz. this is so breathtaking stupid that I don't think it's real at all. This is

  1. an expression of Trump's contempt for you, the reader
  2. an obviously stupid distraction so you don't notice

I have also instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran. MORE DISGUSTING PIRACY THIS TIME AGAINST FRIENDLY NATIONS

People are probably restraining Trump from stupid actions, not through persuasion, but through deception and information hiding. So the only smart thing the US has done the entire war, of allowing some oil to keep flowing, was probably done tough someone just not explaining how dumb and self-destructive any alternative would be to Trump.

People didn't talk to Biden because he wasn't present to talk with. People aren't talking to Trump because if you disagree with him, even about specific means to achieve ends that he wants you to help him meet, he rages out.

That Trump is compromised is not even the biggest problem with him.

Q: could this also be a distraction? A: it can't get worse than

We will also begin destroying the mines the Iranians laid in the Straits Any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL! ... nah, that's normal, unironically. If he were setting something up he'd have larger threats. Note: it is "Any Iranian" who the statement concerns, and it's folowed by Their Navy is gone, their Air Force is gone, their Anti AIrcrat and Radar are useless, Khomeini, and most of their "Leaders" are dead, What happened here is simply that someone tried to discourage Trump from dropping a bunch of useless nukes, by explaining that even civilian megadeath and collapse of the country would not prevent small vengeful groups from a blockade. If we want ships to move here we actually need the cooperation of the locals, it's so easy to deny the ships! So Trump's response is: aha, then I need to threaten to kill some small vengeful groups.

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· 5mo ago
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@Professor_Groyper there are two ways to make someone angry. The first is to not finish a thought, BONUS JOKE there are two ways to make a girl angry. The first is to not finish.
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· 5mo ago
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@parker@dsmc.space @Shadowman311@poa.st nobody cares enough about male health to do this simple and obvious thing.
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· 5mo ago
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@TrevorGoodchild >smug prediction about PAPER barrels of oil >economy actually runs on PHYSICAL barrels of oil >nothing can possibly happen over the weekend to change the physical it's an act of divine mercy for him to be clearly wrong on his chosen metric. What he deserves is to see sub-$70 oil futures today, and remain smug in the path of the tsunami.
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· 5mo ago
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@Terry >if Jews still have reign over our government geez, this is a clearly conditional statement. Why didn't the FBI just helpfully demonstrate that Jews don't reign over his government? Has no glowie heard of deescalation? hello?
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· 5mo ago
>A school student in Lebanon had the bright idea to message the IDF spokesman.
>She told him that there are Hezbollah facilities and weapon storages under school.
NETANYAHU
THERE IS A HEZBOLLAH STORAGE FACILITY
UNDER THIS MATH TEACHER
THAT TOOK OFF POINTS FOR "SHOWING WORK"
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· 5mo ago
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@JoeBravo77 why stop the sentence at "remember"? Because it's politically awkward to accidentally describe modern Israel's ongoing abuses. Just keep it vague. Yeah uh Hitler was bad. I hope Hitler is never resurrected so nothing like Hitler can ever happen again.
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· 5mo ago
The dark humor of the situation is that a deal was scuttled over vain hopes to save the petrodollar, which is already bleeding out and doomed. A realistic, non-delusional, non-propagandized US would've accepted ANY deal. US leaders who cared at all about Americans would've just released all the Epstein files as a distraction from the war and let that less chaos consume the failed elites.

A loss is not a permanent thing, if you simply take it. A taken loss can be motivational, cleansing. You can shake off the rust and unrealistic ambitions, and aim for something new. The US just went to the moon and there are absolutely incredible riches in near space, and new military prospects too. What you want on Earth, you can actually buy. It's not actually cheaper to steal. Empires should be treated like a temporary embarrassment caused by surrounding weak states, and not a goal or a thing to care about maintaining. Empires destroy the core population, as happened in Rome and is happening now in US. America would be better off without an empire, and if the loss had simply been taken it'd even shortly be more respected and safer. The Democrats might've even crucified Trump's administration well enough to discourage some of the long-term Iranian vengeance.

Well, nothing's guaranteed. Trump could just do - nothing. That would be nice.
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· 5mo ago
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@kioshi he reached out to Trump for a life preserver and caught an anchor instead. Well, I'm sure that there's more to it, but Trump sure didn't help.
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· 5mo ago
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@Terry my first reaction is: no way. Do you think Seth Riches really happen? For the capitol to function at all it with its demographics, it has to be pretty controlled. followed by: well, everything is breaking down. The controls might also have.
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· 5mo ago
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@nigger @poastoak @Terry these pics are still much less persuasive than a picture of the chow line that shows what's actually available, but Navy have these high-contrast monochrome uniforms so have very poor stealth skills, and easily get detected when trying to take that shot.
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· 5mo ago
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@SuperLutheran Q: how is the IDF going to ensure that this does not happen again? A: the IDF is going to bomb all such displays before ground troops get close enough to do the obvious thing
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· 6mo ago
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@Shadowbroker2135 assign points to those items, tally the points, and give me my high score, bitch.
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· 5mo ago
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@Chzikken_1486 @ShowMeYourLibrary @paper9741 >49% German >42% Autistic >9% mystery meat
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· 6mo ago
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@bleedingphoenix electrolyte balance: FORGOTTEN
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