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Fedor Indutny

@indutny@mean.engineer

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He/him, io.js forker, Emeritus Node.js TSC Member, Software Engineer at @signalapp@mastodon.world. My interests are OpenSource software, photography/cinematography, modern metal, and reading books/watching movies.

Signalという非営利会社で働いているソフト開発者です。元々Node.js TSC員だって、io.jsをforkしました。興味はOpenSourceソフト、写真／撮影、メタル音楽をギターで弾くこと、本、映画です。

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Joined January 20, 2025

Blog:

https://darksi.de/

Github:

https://github.com/indutny

Signal:

https://signal.me/#eu/yu_GjnrAOYbmngg0VujduuYU1rLVmp9uVW5NyDQCo0ISVTX-coJIl7MQ58kJ_hQc

Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 3mo ago

Any illustrators looking for commission work? Olga and I are producing a play and are looking for artwork for posters, flyers, etc. The play is about dystopian future, but we are open to various interpretations of the story for the illustrations! (Boosts appreciated)

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 2mo ago

Mandatory cuteness from the same Super Takumar 50mm lens.

#Photography #DogsOfMastodon #Pet #VintageLens

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 2mo ago

Took a short walk at golden hour to test out the Super Takumar 50mm that I got, and oh the swirly bokeh! Flares are pretty rad too, although they are only visible in a small angle range. #Photography

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

I'm so appreciative of @bengl@mas.to right now. Their PR that proposes adding policy on LLM-generated contributions is receiving lots of feedback from other project maintainers and has helped me uncover additional concerns about LLM: https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/62447

Like, I haven't thought until yesterday evening that LLM written code is completely antithetical to MIT-license under which Node.js is written. LLMs are designed to destroy attribution, but MIT license is built on top of it.

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

RE: @indutny@mean.engineer

Over the night I got so many responses and boosts to my original Toot that I decided to start the petition to Node.js Technical Steering Committee (TSC) to make sure all our voices are heard.

If you don't want Node.js core to be diluted with AI slop - please sign it by opening a Pull Request here and boosting this Toot for reach:

https://github.com/indutny/no-ai-in-nodejs-core?tab=readme-ov-file#petition-to-nodejs-tsc-no-ai-code-in-nodejs-core

Thank you, you are the best!

#NoSlopInNodejsCore

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

In a way I'm glad that we started discourse on LLM use in Node.js core because it revealed to me that there are a lot more people who are not in AI hype-cycle than I previously thought. I'm now much more optimistic about the future of software engineering!

Consider this:

- 87.3% upvote ratio with 298 upvotes on /r/node
- 76.6% upvote ratio with 50 upvotes on /r/javascript (and I just posted it)
- Incredibly supportive comments on HN (!!!)

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 2mo ago

Going to start my first 24 hour 3D print. Wish me luck! 🍀

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

Replying to

And... this ended with a petition that I want to put before TSC vote in two weeks https://github.com/indutny/no-slop-in-nodejs-core

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

Replying to

@quarknova congratulations! Looks like due to accidental timing I've started similar effort, but for Node.js core!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

Replying to

@andrewrk tbh, I feel exactly the same about the proposed change itself. It is hard to buy whatever is being sold... Thankfully the outrage that I felt happened way before I could even take a look at the code. Asking people to review 19k LoC LLM-generated PR is beyond what I'd consider basic politeness. The disproportionality of the time spent implementing this and the time needed to carefully review and catch slop mistakes is egregious.

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@andrewrk thank you! There’s now going to be a TSC vote on the matter in about two weeks. I'll hope to present these points succinctly before the committee!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

Replying to

Update: I'm so proud of y'all! I know AI companies and many employers aren’t making it easy to step out and say "no" to it, but you went in and signed the petition. I respect that a lot! We still have time to get more names on the list and make stronger case for TSC committee, but seeing all these names under it is already very refreshing in the days where every news cycle either talks about AI changing the world or about job cuts by major companies (in addition to wars, obviously).

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

Replying to

@yasser yes, absolutely! I’m trying to find a common ground on which we could base the decision not to accept such change, and which is agreeable to engineers leaning on LLMs heavily. DCO seemed like a good starting point since in my reading it clearly is incompatible with the LLM assisted contributions.

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

Finally got to finish a long term maintenance idea that I had at work. The app and installer size is going to be reduced by around 10% as a result, while startup time getting 10% faster. Exciting!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@zkat @bengl absolutely! “Cat's out of bag”, “Everyone uses it", “It will alienate new contributors" are all very silly arguments for LLM that would make much less sense if we'd try to translate them to any other real world scenario. It is really hard to fight the feeling of empowerment that LLM gives to the users, and admit that this technology is not only deeply unethical, but also addictive.

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 2mo ago

Oh no, Pixelmator can't handle more than 32000 pixels in width

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 2mo ago

Nice, just when I'm about to be finished with 3D prints for the show I learned how to use caliper to measure sub-mm distances 🤦

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 2mo ago

I2C Hotswap Buffer made some difference! Wish I didn’t have to power two components separately, but at least now they don’t get out of sync ☺️

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

Replying to

@quarknova will do! The vote is in two weeks, and I'm doing all I can to gather support for AI opposition with the petition I created. Thank you for support!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 5mo ago

ロサンゼルスでも咲いてるよ！🌸

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@claudius absolutely! As long as you care about it - go for it!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 5mo ago

Replying to

わずかに泡が細かくなったかも？

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 5mo ago

Slept 11 hours and hopefully finally caught up with all the missed sleep this week!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

Animals as Leaders were great!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

Replying to

@zkat @bengl I disagree with the “unenforceable” argument too, but I deeply respect contributors posting this comment. They are part of the driving force behind Node.js and I don't think they have ill intentions even though we are not in agreement on LLM use.

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@anyia @appagalcrochet This is what started the discussion on that PR! Developer's Certificate of Origin of Node.js loosely says that the author is the author of the code, or knows where they got the code from and under what license. With AI - generated code is neither!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

Replying to

Some people asked me if I could offer a way to sign the petition without having a github account, so I created a mirror (?) on Change.org: https://www.change.org/p/no-ai-code-in-node-js-core Github is still a preferred way to sign this, but if for some reason this doesn't work for you - at least now you have an alternative way to make your voice heard!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@bengl that's my plan! Join the meeting and present this to TSC

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@appagalcrochet ofc, https://github.com/indutny/no-ai-in-nodejs-core ! Thank you

GitHub - indutny/no-ai-in-nodejs-core: A petition to disallow acceptance of LLM generated Pull Requests in Node.js core

A petition to disallow acceptance of LLM generated Pull Requests in Node.js core - indutny/no-ai-in-nodejs-core

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@appagalcrochet thank you!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@heapwolf please sign the petition! https://github.com/indutny/no-slop-in-nodejs-core

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 5mo ago

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@janl@narrativ.es oh no, my darksi.de

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 5mo ago

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@kyle @dale I came to ask this 😅

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 5mo ago

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@mjg59@nondeterministic.computer I wish they separated Japanese kanji from Chinese, though. The fact that font has to be used to render them properly is a huge oversight

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 5mo ago

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@zkat I usually click "open in web browser" in Ivory to go to their server 😭

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 5mo ago

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@janl Thank you! My goal is to acquire 1000 random skills, haha

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 5mo ago

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もっと細かくよね！

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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泡立てるのはちょっと難しいね…でも改善ように頑張るよ！

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@aredridel @thibaultamartin here should have been a mandatory Ursula K. Le Guin reference 😅

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@simlay thank you! 🙏 I'm really happy it works well for you. We'll keep working on making it even better!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

OH “AI apologetics”

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@cap_ybarra I know, right! Let's sign the petition to stop this https://github.com/indutny/no-slop-in-nodejs-core

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

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@andrewrk I think I'm gonna rephrase and use this if you don't mind!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 5mo ago

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@andrewrk@mastodon.social ah, so it is sort of like mold too? 🤣

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 6mo ago

Replying to

@pipeGutierrez great question! I'd be still against using it for different reasons (code quality, new contributor on-boarding and education). That being said, I agree that ethical component of LLM-based contributions is a significant factor!

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 5mo ago

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最後の投稿でしょう！完璧と言えるほどがない泡だけど、最初の試しと比べたら変更が是非あるよね！（そしてとりあえず粉も終わってしましった🤫）

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Fedor Indutny @indutny@mean.engineer

· 2mo ago

Are we getting serious with the vocabulary?!

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