I started a thread on the GNOME forum about the state of #vala maintenance. I don't have the answers, but let's discuss & figure out as a community what we can do to make sure that Vala is sustainable and can keep moving forward
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Sergey Bugaev
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mastodon 4.7.3Systems hacker, mostly working on GTK and the wider GNOME platform these days. I made peel and wl-clipboard. Previously active in GNU Hurd and glibc, Darling, etc.
I teach a university course on Unix and RISC-V.
I run, work out, drink too much coffee, and miss dancing.
I like Rust and dislike Docker.
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In other news, I finally allocated some time this weekend to do some maintenance work and get wl-clipboard 2.3 out.
People have long been asking for a new release (especially once KDE decided to just drop wlr-data-control support). However, it takes time and effort even to review & test & merge (with changes...) incoming PRs; maintenance work is work too.
Read the release notes at https://github.com/bugaevc/wl-clipboard/releases/tag/v2.3.0
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@hernantz@fosstodon.org this looks useful and cute!
is it vibecoded? is it written in Rust? is it Flatpak-only?
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@mort@floss.social @shac@ioc.exchange you forgot Rust in that list, which panics on unwrapping None (analogous to null pointer exception) and out-of-bounds array indexing
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@zoeyTheWitch@social.treehouse.systems (tiny correction: in the bullet point about my talk, I haven't ported the app singlehandedly, I was on a team of 2–3 people, i.e. one or two people at different times besides myself)
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How do "easy & fun" and "C++" combine, you might ask? 😆
I don't yet know, we'll figure it out :)
Rewritten in 🦀 Rust (blazing fast! 🚀) with Claude and Copilot ✨ and published as Flatpak 📦
Very happy with how our little collaboration with @slomo@toot.cat on the "#peel for #GStreamer" project is proceeding.
This basically involves adding various little enhancements and fixes into peel to better support GStreamer needs, such as better supporting dynamic properties and signals (this is something that Vala has a whole language feature for!), and also improving GStreamer's own GIR where possible to be more binding-friendly.
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@trafotin@vt.social is *that* seriously what people are naming as the reason why they don't ever want to use Flatpak?
@TheEvilSkeleton@social.treehouse.systems
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@Mara@hachyderm.io yes please! 💯
I had a design where the || and && operators were overloadable, and there, res.unwrap() turned into
res || panic!()
and res.unwrap_or(default_value) into
res || default_value
and res.unwrap_or_else(callback) into
res || callback()
But if you're not doing that, renaming the methods would be great.
$ ostree admin hardbrick
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The main application code is in Rust, a language I've wanted to explore for quite a while. And the user interface was built as a web application.
Welp
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@alilly@solarpunk.moe storing your swap on a remote host, also known as download more RAM?
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@chadwallacehart @ystreet00 @gstreamer is there an update on GStreamer-based WebRTC in WebKitGTK? The linked page is from 2022.
https://base-art.net/Articles/webrtc-in-webkitgtk-and-wpe-status-updates-part-i/ is from last year; there were no "next part of these series" AFAICS. WebKitGTK appears to still ship without WebRTC support (by default?)
@philn
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@saagar@federated.saagarjha.com @slomo@toot.cat but how could the compiler possibly know whether you're relying on it or not?
(But I'm not convinced that just specifying LTR is "fixing it" either.)
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@Mara@hachyderm.io @tauon@possum.city moreover, that just wouldn't work since we've already moved the res into the LHS
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@oli@hachyderm.io @Mara@hachyderm.io it's not a closure since it can contain control flow, and also likely do things that borrow checker wouldn't like a closure doing. It was desugared to explicitly query the LHS whether or not to short circuit, and run the RHS if not.
https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/pre-rfc-overload-short-curcuits/10460/29
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@idkrn@infosec.exchange so is dereferencing a pointer (that you thought cannot be null)? What's your point?
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- There is not really a UB in languages like Java and Python (you're thinking of C), dereferencing null is well-defined, in Java it will throw a NullPointerException
- There is absolutely unwrap (or expect, etc) usage in any serious/realistic Rust code base
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@neuralreckoning@neuromatch.social how does grammar checking result in a hallucinated paper reference?
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@mjg59@nondeterministic.computer actually could you explain what "bearer" means when talking about tokens? Is it just any opaque token used for auth? If so, what's so unexpected about Kerberos tickets being "bearer tokens"?