yanndegat

@cartes_app@amicale.net

• qu'il y ait une version libre/foss des play services, que des fournisseurs operent la plateforme, et qu'on pourrait selectionner dans les parametres du telephones

qu'une solution qui ne reposerait pas sur android, (ex: postmarketos) laisserait les utilisateurs sur la touche pour toutes les apps numeriques poussees par les etats et les banques.

@cartes_app@amicale.net c'est un sujet vraiment compliqué a traiter parce que pour obtenir a systeme totalement libéré de la plateforme google tout en restant securisé , il faudrait reussir a faire travailler de concert:

• les constructeurs, pour fournir les certificats pour resigner le boot loader (fairphone pourrait etre moteur sur ce point), pour valider une "forte integrité" du téléphone
• les createurs d'apps: les banques, les états, (pour les apps d'EID europeennes ou france identité).
• qu'aosp soit repris par une fondation et que les constructeurs suivent?

@lbr59@mastodon.roflcopter.fr @cartes_app@amicale.net @Berta@framapiaf.org @brume@piaille.fr grapheneos vient de publier un long thread sur le sujet https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116550899908879585

@agnes007@mastodon.social thanks a lot. hi @z3ntu@fosstodon.org do you have plans at FP to add support for postmarketos for your phones? or maybe publish your drivers ? i've seen fp5 is almost supported except for audio calls, which is pretty annoying. and fp6 has most of its features broken. thanks a lot. and best regards

@agnes007@mastodon.social bravo supers telephones. je pense en acheter un 2ieme pour un 2ieme membre de la famille j'ai pose une question a votre support il y a qq semaines maintenant, restee sans reponse. aussi je me permets une bouteille a la mer ici, j'espere que vous ne m'en voudrez pas. vos fairphone sont mal supportes sur postmarketos. ubuntutouch semble ok car base sur halium. mais pas postmarketos. est ce que vous avez la possibilite de publier les sources de vos drivers ? afin que les FP soient mieux integres sous linux ? (notamment pour le fp5 et 6) merci bcp et bonne journee

@davidcelis@xoxo.zone well. it's simply that there's been a lot of AI Coding Assistants bashing recently. and frankly, IMHO there are issues with power consumption, giving more empowerment to already too much powerful GAFAMs, serious jobs cutting side effects. but on a day to day basis, these tools can be superpowerful to get most of the boring jobs done. there are many aspects behind the coding game, from designing / POCing, to maintaining processes up in production. nowadays, most of this job has become kind of boring. and i personnally find that AI coding assistants can free a lot of time si i can be able to do the cool stuff again.

@davidcelis@xoxo.zone dont mean to be rude, but most of our day to day work is not fun anymore 90% of the time. and i've been in the game since 2000.

@davidcelis@xoxo.zone and also always was reluctant deep dive into it. so there's been lots of stuff i didnt even start to experiment just because i was lacking at decent prototype UI. now it seems to me that it's much easier to prototype stuff: you can keep your hands dirty on the core of your system/design, but to demonstrate or convince yourself of its value, you need a first decent UI. some other ppl are very efficient at UI stuff, but not at deploying/packaging their appl. i dont think people will stop thinking. or if some do stop, then they were probably not thinking that much before AI.

@davidcelis@xoxo.zone it seems to me that it was a lot easier to prototype stuff 20y ago than today. and that coding assistants are leveling down the barrier. so, on my side, very personal, i feel like it's fun again.

@z3ntu@fosstodon.org thanks a lot. as i wanted to purchase for a fp6 or fp5 sooner or later this year, i was wondering if fp6 was going to be as well supported as fp5 or even more. (at least phone calls and gps). of course i can understand that postmarketos may not be a high priority target at the moment for FP. and i checked videos on youtube a just saw that you actually were pretty active in this area, so i guess i'll just have to wait and keep watching for updates. thanks again for your work .

@mitchellh@hachyderm.io congrats!!!

@mitchellh@hachyderm.io and get used to readline's default key bindings as a getting started for EMACS!

@lbr59@mastodon.roflcopter.fr @cartes_app@amicale.net @Berta@framapiaf.org @brume@piaille.fr le probleme est qu'aucun fournisseur / etat europeen ne s'este attelé a la tache. et en attendant, les seules plateformes permettant de fournir une enclave numerique securisée (notamment pour les paiements et la gestion des identités numeriques) sont celles de google et d'android. meme en suisse, alors qu'ils sont parmi les pays les plus prompts a faire attention a la souveraineté de leurs services publiques, ils n'ont pas de solution alternative a google play services / ios, du moins pour le moment.

@davidcelis@xoxo.zone i dont agree at all: i had a lot of fun doing advent of code. but i dont feel any fun in: doing modern UIs whether they are mobile, flutter, typescript, react, vite whatever; maintaining tens if not hunderds of templated yaml files to instruct k8s how to deploy my app instructing CICD how to behave with dumb shell scripts in yaml files. mapping cli args to fn handlers mapping fn handlers to parametized sql requests. writing mock scenarios for my tests with mocked data.. and so on..

@davidcelis@xoxo.zone well, i wouldnt be that pessimist about people abandonning learning. lastly i've been experimenting a lot of stuff on my own, using coding assistants and i think it helped my learn a lot. i think i wouldnt have even tried to begin some experiments if i hadnt have an assistant to help me bootstrap and prototype quickly, on fields very new to me i didnt even know where to begin. fields such as p2p networks, or how to interact with terminal primitives/ansi codes and stuff like that. emojis rendering. the very same way: i've always been terrible an at UI stuff, and even more since the JS fwks era, even for TUIs.