@bert_hubert One thing I don't see discussed is the different "modes" of programming. E.g. if I am writing code that is to be production-quality in a language/framework I have in the front of my mind, then I am faster than the LLM. But for just about everything else, test-harnesses, prototypes, experiments, UI to visualize the data I am working with etc. Then the LLM will produce a good enough result much faster than I can.