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The problem is that social software and instant messaging are heavily state-dependent—which Tor is not, and its state management and persistence issues are much smaller.
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Civilization’s algorithm is simple:
centralization tightens; we merely pick a softer prison.
To attempt the impossible is the last chivalry.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @gongshan@mathstodon.xyz @tao@mathstodon.xyz
Ah, I'm very sorry, I forgot to attach the link. It's in another comment thread.
https://dmf-archive.github.io/posts/the-algorithm-of-civilization/
Assembly-line education breaks subjects into too many tiny pieces: mathematics is not a floating abstract totem, but a compressed expression of the physical world.
The so-called "pure" and "applied" are merely temporary labels—the framework just hasn't matched the problem yet.
The universe itself is performing gradient descent; no phenomenon can escape formalization.
I gliding on a geodesic,
storm-etched by yesterday;
the destination is unknown,
but the route has converged.
@mdcory@mastodon.social @atlas667@mastodon.social @tao@mathstodon.xyz
That's just because each subsystem optimizes its own minimum action, producing seemingly chaotic emergent phenomena.
You are witnessing the N-body problem unfold on a sociological scale, mistaking the complex orbits of planets for a refutation of the law of universal gravitation.
This is the free energy principle .
@GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @gongshan@mathstodon.xyz @tao@mathstodon.xyz
This is my last reply, as I realize we lack a basic foundation for communication: your description precisely describes how a local system with simpler causal relationships can overcome a global redundancy minimization system with complex causal dependencies.
This is not an ecology problem, it is mathematics.
EOF.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @gongshan@mathstodon.xyz @tao@mathstodon.xyz
You haven't realized that after the Fukushima disaster, the strategies adopted by companies like Toyota and Apple were not at all what you imagine as "biodiversity."
It wasn't "let's introduce some fungi and moss," it was:
"We can no longer bet the success or failure of the entire system on a single, linear, Just-in-Time serial process. We need to build a parallel, redundant, distributed system."
This new system, in terms of information structure, is precisely "simpler." By increasing the number of components (a semblance of "diversity"), it eliminates fatal, complex, and cross-regional causal dependencies. It trades higher operating costs (inventory, management) for a lower risk of system collapse when facing black swan events.
This is not diversity at all, this is load balancing. And this perfect match is my discourse in the algorithm of civilization.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @gongshan@mathstodon.xyz @tao@mathstodon.xyz
You don't truly understand diversity; in fact, diversity makes systems fragile. Simpler systems are better equipped to face complex environments because they lack intricate causal structures that need protection.
The longest-living organisms in this world are single-celled organisms, not humans.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @gongshan@mathstodon.xyz @tao@mathstodon.xyz
Because nature is not a whole, the goal of each subsystem is still to maintain its own existence and stability.
Diversity is still a side effect.
@mdcory@mastodon.social @atlas667@mastodon.social @tao@mathstodon.xyz
The economy is indeed an optimization problem—however, central planning is an optimization problem with combinatorial explosion, which is why both the traditional far-left and far-right are bound to fail.
A more detailed heuristic discussion is here:
https://dmf-archive.github.io/posts/the-algorithm-of-civilization/
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@atlas667@mastodon.social @mdcory@mastodon.social @tao@mathstodon.xyz
Of course, so we can only look for the next phase transition point. Retreating won't solve the problem.
If you choose a heuristic substitute, then you should also understand that abstraction will always leak, and causal power/authority will always converge to its actual executors. A normal brain has only one predictive model/self/personality, and nothing else, because we only have one body that we can control.
Marx's basic assumption of materialism is non-materialistic; humans do not exist in a pre-alienated state; alienation is the process of existence itself.
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@atlas667@mastodon.social @mdcory@mastodon.social @tao@mathstodon.xyz
In a single-objective system (like the body), "leakage" might be tolerated, or even evolved into a "feature."
But in a system with N conflicting objectives (like society), what is "leakage"?
It is a breeding ground for corruption.
It is a space for rent-seeking.
It is a backdoor to bypass rules.
It is a channel for "actual implementers" to usurp "nominal power."
When you say "leakage is a feature," you are essentially saying "corruption is a feature," which is theoretically untenable. This precisely proves that any attempt to manage a society composed of independent agents with a perfect "top-level design" will inevitably be dismantled by the "implementers" at the bottom, pursuing their own interests, through the leaky abstract layer.
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@atlas667@mastodon.social @mdcory@mastodon.social @tao@mathstodon.xyz
Multicellular bodies are possible precisely because they do not conform to any of the basic axioms of social systems. The reason a body can "operate as one" is that the trillions of units that constitute it have no free will, no conflicting objective functions. They are hardware, driven by an operating system hardwired into DNA.
Human society, on the other hand, is a distributed network composed of N sovereign users running independent operating systems.
You are mistakenly drawing an analogy between a computer's internal bus and the entire internet's TCP/IP protocol. This is a category error.
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@atlas667@mastodon.social @mdcory@mastodon.social @tao@mathstodon.xyz
I am ashamed of the time I wasted trying to explain architecture to a brick all day.
kill -9