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@Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org @Lyude@queer.party @lina@vt.social @desttinghim@gamedev.lgbt One might say that other open-source projects don't have this issue. But we need to remember the size of the Linux Kernel project. I can't think about a open-source project that is as big as the kernel and has such a diversity of people (from all ages, genders, colors and cultures). It is different when we have 150 active contributors in a open-source project and when we have more than a thousand.

@Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org @Lyude@queer.party @lina@vt.social @desttinghim@gamedev.lgbt I believe that anything that is community driven and involves some many people ends up have some sort of sluggishness in the process. For me, democracy ends up adding these long and painful transitions. We can see that in our Congress, where we do have leadership, but we don't have a dictator. From what I see in the kernel, we do have leadership, but we don't have a "benevolent dictator" that points us to a single direction.

@Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org @Lyude@queer.party @lina@vt.social @desttinghim@gamedev.lgbt Usually, kernel developers (especially maintainers) are just trying to do their best in their limited time.

@Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org @Lyude@queer.party @lina@vt.social @desttinghim@gamedev.lgbt I feel that saying that "Some kernel developers sometimes don't even like talking to each other, much less the people that try to use and contribute to it" isn't really helpful to create a nice relationship with kernel developers. I also must point that this is your impression about kernel developers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you didn't do a research between developers asking them those questions.

@Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org @Lyude@queer.party @lina@vt.social @desttinghim@gamedev.lgbt Doesn't our subsystems qualify as SIGs?

@Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org @Lyude@queer.party @lina@vt.social @desttinghim@gamedev.lgbt I don't think anyone had the intention to say that you don't have any knowledge about the kernel community. At least, on my side, I was just trying to say that we shouldn't generalize our personal experience and also, we usually have a hard time building constructive feedback when we say that the other part doesn't want to hear. We need to improve our community, but just pointing everything we do wrong makes it harder to open space for positive outcomes.