"Slop Grenades": Shopify CEO Who Pushed Staff to Use AI Is Now Horrified by What He's Wrought
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AI: EU Member States plan “digital expropriation” of Europeans in the interest of AI companies
"AI Gaming Festival" on Steam
How nice of them to self-report their AI usage.
Here is a list of the publishers taking part and which games they entered into this event. Do with that information as you please. Just as a warning some of the games linked are very NSFW.
10six Games
- YOU vs Zombies -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4224660/
150 Beanies
- Cardboard Gladiators -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/5030380/
Absolute Power Game Studio
- Legacy of Sin: Ill-Boding -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2585580/
Ada Eden
- Book of Infinity: 1001 Nights -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2542850/
Agapo Games
- New Science -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4731610/
Agard Games
- Faint Echo -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3936350/
- Sacrificium -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4719600/
Alsakin Games
- The Red Weight -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4708270/
Amped Horizon
- AI Pals Engine -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3410930/
Anice
- Circuit Pulse -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4503110/
Apothema
ARTillery Studio
- VoltHaven -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/1353450/
Artur Latkovsky
- Lost Media Agency -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4599470/
Ashen Hearth
- Sea and Sundry -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4990730/
astro stew
- Emotional Labor Laboratory -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4678050/
ASyun
- Tale Sweeper -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4764420/
AutoGame
- Magi Scapes -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2990190/
BadGafiGames
- THE DOUBLE -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4220670/
Barbarian Studios
- Delivery Survivors -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4033640/
Based On The Play
- Make The Dead Dead Again -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3999820/
BetDev
- Metal Detector Island -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4916780/
Biang Studio
- Pocket Cultivation -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4707190/
Bizi Games
- False Testimony -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4292290/
- Omertà: Mafia Novel -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3982430/
- Through the Edges -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3509460/
Blusagi Team
- Market Moe -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4174620/
Bslteam
- Shop Crush -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2961120/
by Jan Zizka
- Machinefall -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3213120/
Cag
- Abyss Prowler -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4277700/
City From Naught Inc.
- Brave New Wonders -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2403830/
COCOASOO
- Sketch Kingdom -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4741590/
CorvusCorax Studio
- Match! The 12 CZ Wars -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3400030/
Crow Girl Games
- 100 Hidden Relics -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4962590/
CRUNCHFEST
- CODEX MORTIS -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4084120/
Cunning Craft LLC
- Witherwood -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3392560/
Don Pachi
- Click Build Repeat -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4568060/
- Mech Builder -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2870420/
Dramatic Medium
- Skufs VS Quadrobers -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3446850/
DropC Gamestudio
- Dicefall -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3888300/
Easy Fox
- Teach My Little Sister How To Drive -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3948460/
Eathrabaria
- School Teacher Simulator -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3304570/
Eldryngard Studios
- Scourge of Eldryngard -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4624130/
Elias IDIRI
- Ceraphic Requiem -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4662260/
Emotional Machines
- Quarterheart -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4827000/
End Boss Games LLC
- Grid Grind -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4430440/
Entropy
- The Aurora Chronicles -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4262410/
Ethereal Forge
- Revival of the Noble Blade -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3462940/
FaMo9 Studio
- Project Cleaner -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4877330/
FapYeah
- No Fap Island 💦 -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3146690/
Fatum Games SL
- Ariokan™ - create your cards, break the Meta -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3833620/
FlatVoxelStudios
- RobotzZz -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4561980/
FUF Games
- Touhou: Beyond Gensokyo -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4489700/
Furnace Hound Games
- Chinese Pancake Simulator -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4808180/
gameboardgames
- RoadHouse Manager -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2822360/
GEM Games
- Snake: Gridbreaker -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4828340/
Genman Games
- FFFF : Fatal Five Finger Fillet -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2905730/
GFX47
- Echoes of the Architects -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3136490/
- Endless Escalation -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4090520/
GrandPaw Games
- Trade Conquest -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3160580/
Granité Works
- Living on Plain Pasta -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4903800/
GreatColtini Industries
- Kingdom TD: Draft Your Demise -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4990780/
haga interactive
- Spy Carnival -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4580330/
HappyPaphy
- The Glory Dungeon Raider -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3484730/
Hawk Vision Games LLC
- Crim Ludus -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4062250/
Hellfun Digital
- Warmachine: Rogue-Scout -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/5006180/
Hidden Spark Games
- Pluck Em! -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4859830/
Huiyu
- She Remembers You -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4821670/
illusorys
- Refrain: Verse of Fate -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4370190/
INDIE-SQUID
- Roguelette -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4864990/
indie.io
- Knights of the Crusades -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3440120/
- Cargo, Please! -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4160920/
- City States: Medieval -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4066390/
- CoreRunner -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3415380/
- Dwellink: War of the Nine -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2927490/
- Esports Manager 2026 -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2749950/
- From The Bunker -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/1782590/
- Grimstar: Crystals are the New Oil! -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/1631230/
- Monsters and Me 🧟♂️🤷♂️ -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3644160/
- Nemorsys -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3517930/
- Polylithic -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/1839060/
- Presidential Rise -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2926700/
- Red Pistol -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3213790/
- Tales of Old: Dominus -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2761000/
- The Dead Await -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2393580/
- The Sinking Forest - 沈んだ森 - -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3206410/
- Valiant Tactics -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2412280/
- Yankee Rabbits -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3922140/
indiejoh
- Wild Boar Digging -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4967130/
ioStudios
- Battleboard -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4970430/
- Biosphere Simulator -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4606790/
- Cozy Airways -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4872620/
- Crownbane -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4970420/
- Divine Ascendancy -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4970400/
- HOLOFLEET -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4970440/
- Kung Fu: The Devil's Temple Awaits -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4970390/
- Null Keeper -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4970410/
- Space Planet Explorer -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4840950/
- The Rug Racket -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4912990/
Judatone Studios
- Mekkablood: Quarry Assault -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3056270/
Kabreet Games
- Node Factory -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4513380/
kan.kikuchi
- Life of a Lonely Indie Game Developer -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3139290/
Kemsyn Games
- BLADEMANCER -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3495740/
- WITHER -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4121560/
kfancy
- Wild Crazy 8s -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4878180/
Kiyana Studios
- Gamarra - Street Vendor Simulator -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4535020/
Klafti Studio
- Burnstation -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4370480/
Lambda 7 Tech LLC
- Circuit Keep -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4731380/
Lamby Wamy Games
- SableSyn Protocol -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4661340/
Latent Blade Studios
- Cycle of the Unbroken -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4650370/
Lavega Games
- Patchkins Party -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3405130/
Lebab
- Juggling Cup -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4211050/
Leeding Apps
- Staged: Open House Demo -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4513990/
Lenway
- Bloom Inc -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4970620/
Llamaplay
- CHOMP CHOMP Carnage -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4543080/
- Prescription: Madness -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4074610/
- When the Embers Wake -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3986340/
Lola´s Fatal Library
- My Grimm Fate -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4049430/
Mathieu Bekkaye
- The Devil Card -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3968080/
Meowjito Games
- Chubby Farm -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4822050/
- MEOWU ISLAND -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3743680/
Mertvitel & Partners
- Remedy for Personality -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4186720/
Meshy Game Studio
- Black Box: Infinite Arsenal -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4437020/
Mich
- Divided Land -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2268520/
MM88
- DREADMARCH -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4285180/
MogMek
- Mowties -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4832870/
Mousitude Games
- Toe-tal War -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4314600/
moyumoyu
- Thirsty Snail -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4190150/
Murzin Studio
- Last Front -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3630150/
netplay Entertainment
- Medieval Ascendant -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4860010/
Nue Games
- Ballardo: Roguelike Billiards -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3415530/
- Donkey Jump: In the Loop -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3856360/
Oba Games
- Dating App Simulator -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3427550/
Ofer Rubinstein
One Isometric Studio
- Ashikai -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4534780/
Optillusion
- Pick Me Pick Me -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3189430/
OriginlessGamerApps
- Slots And Shots -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4908080/
PartTimeIndie
- School of Magic: Deck & Slash -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/1106680/
PassiveAutism
- Roguegg: Hardboiled Survivors -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4076270/
Pelumbra Games
- Frame Fatale: A Minesweeper Gallery -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4944930/
Petrichor Labs
- Echoes of Elpis -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2884720/
Potato Cat
- Hopeless Sea -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2732210/
Pulsar Creation
- A Fistful Of Yankees -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2936470/
Puushi-Sama
- Stuck with my Ex's Family and ZOMBIES!? -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4171770/
PyroPhysics
- GnomeBoozled -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4794780/
- Space Numbers Go Up -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4364650/
Quiet Eve Studio
- Blightsilver -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4786130/
Raiders World Studio
- Armita's Search: Story-Driven Tactical Deckbuilder -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4302760/
Reija
- Shell Runner -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2622280/
rhedak
- Panzer Island -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4757690/
RuiRui Games
- RETRIEVAL -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4682840/
Run Radiant
- Dread Below -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4917820/
Sandy Studios
- Souq Boss Simulator -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4229880/
Scissors Game
- Card Streamer Simulator -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3592240/
Scriptorium Artis
- Penance -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4030320/
Self
- Spacelane Express -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2980350/
Sergii Ievtushenko
- Forestygian -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3132780/
SetForMoney Studios
- Escape the Grind -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4663080/
Sevan Games
- Azmar Quest - Text Based RPG -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3474140/
Shameful Guys Development
- Bangkok Story: A Stray Dog -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2121450/
Shanghai Watchman Network Technology Co., Ltd
- 白蛇之子 | The Son of White Snake: Roguelike Deckbuilder -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4462700/
Shu'la Lab LLC
- Homicide Desk -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4935210/
Shuffle Play Games
- Backpack Dungeon -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4478640/
- Sifu Duel -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4961220/
Skills From Gaming
- Wizard of Maths -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2868850/
SKLC Games
- Demockracy -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4957380/
Smoketree Studios
- DungeonSweeper -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4109840/
Solo Gaming
- Abyss Horde -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4331130/
- Tale of Immortal Ring -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4130990/
sorryaboutyourcats
- Mow Meow -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3529400/
SpiritOfWolf
- Serenade of the Soul -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4285550/
Strategy First
- Bad Rats: the Rats' Revenge -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/34900/
Sui Motus
- CODEX vs SCIENCE (Not Talos Principles) -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4596000/
SWAGamesDev
- Blast Beam Bang -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4336400/
Swah Games
- Ghostwriter's Pact -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4325170/
Sympathy Systems
- Humanity Echo: Cyberpunk Tactical RPG -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3865080/
Tactile Galactic
- Type The Rhythm -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4312750/
TAF
- MOLOKAUST -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4503570/
Tambù Digital
- Lostbound Demo -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4703650/
TARK Future Heroes
- ZeroPrompt -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4306040/
Testudo
Titan Art Games
- Sevenfall -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4373490/
Trash Panda Studios
- Drone Soccer -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4047220/
Trias Team
Untitled Software
- Hardcourt Balls -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4260690/
Valkyrie Initiative
- Decadent Heir -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3261140/
Wurrz
- Final Selection Demo -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4562260/
YCF Productions
- Mycelium Conquest -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4667250/
YS246 Games
- Soulcery: Deck of Shadows -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3856480/
Yuzu Game Studio
- Memory Farm -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4636430/
Zakym s. r. o.
- Forsaken Fleet -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4828390/
- The Wellmonts Case -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/3648400/
Zodiac GameLab
- Crystal Ascend -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4553780/
小黑与鹿鹿
- 黑水镇Blackwater Town -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2909420/
心室二
- Night of her vanishing in fireworks -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4738330/
愛の勇者
- Silan: Monster Girl Master! -- https://store.steampowered.com/app/4293110/
‘Tidal wave’ of Pfas being launched to satisfy AI industry, campaigners warn
Weird little guys of FOSS
The Internet Archive hosts ClimateGPT 4.3 during their tour of its digital library
The Internet Archive keeps interesting company. Erasmus AI "fights" climate change with AI while partnering with an oil company.
The results were a mix of useful answers, wrong turns & outright refusals.
You don't say...
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If you are still donating to KDE please consider cancelling that donation and let the people at KDE know.
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“Mathematicians solved prestigious problem and Codex helped” would have been great propaganda for OpenAI, but they managed to make an easy win into a PR disaster. Instead the message researchers around the world take away is probably: “Don’t use Codex it steals your research data and OpenAI will publish it as their own”.
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DHH is a racist not fascist, bet you feel stupid now don’t you?
Bevy's AI Booster problem explained as the Nazi bar problem
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Nuance; unless you mention environmental concerns then that you can shove your nuance where the sun don’t shine.
The EFF has come out in support of AI vendors
If you haven't already done so, now is the time to cancel any donations to these libertarian tech bros.
Someone ‘Torturing’ LLMs in a Robot Prison Has Triggered the Dumbest Debate in AI Yet
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It was only a matter of time. Enlightened centrist Brodie Robertson is now rubbing shoulders with DHH on his podcast. I guess after making nice with the likes of Andreas Kling, Vaxry and Lunduke it was only a small step to invite DHH as well.
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Um ackshually, calling out fascists is a call to violence and that’s how you get fascism.
Supreme Leader of KDE doubles down on sloppification
As a former donor to KDE I love nothing more than being called mere rabble.
Proposed KDE LLM guidelines
Putting shit in your food is OK as long as it is only a little bit of shit and you can’t immediately taste it.
Its the GNOME car! Brought to you by EmmanueleBassi and named accordingly...
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Yes, you are acting unethical. Your self-hosted model is neither open nor was it trained with consent. Using them is just as unethical as using the models from OpenAI.
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“You just don’t understand it” was also what the crypto people always told me when I called their obvious ponzi scheme a ponzi scheme.
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Cory Doctorow has no credibility in regards to AI ever since he called opposition to AI “purity testing” among other strawman arguments. All the former “good guys”, the EFF, Cory Doctorow, Linus Torvalds, even fucking Debian (who once shipped a renamed version of Firefox because of potential copyright issues) are one after the other showing their true colours. Meanwhile the fascist creators of AI models openly state that they want to push the very people who created the work they copied to “train” their product, out of the market. This is one of the reasons we even have copyright. Call it tilted towards media all you want, they don’t just get to decide that it no longer matters now that it is inconvenient to the tech oligarchy.
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I don’t know why you are talking about privacy. Expectation of privacy is unrelated to copyright. Anyway the point I am making is that just a license allowing something doesn’t make it moral. Sure, the law allows someone to train you slop generator on my code but I can still think they are an unethical piece of shit for doing so and that’s why I don’t feel bad about techbros crying online that they are bullied for using AI.
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Notice how its always the little guy that has to just accept things and be “reasonable” while fascist tech oligarchs can just do what they want. How dare I be dogmatic about something that is actively ruining my live and not buying the books by people actively furthering the cause of those oligarchs.
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Their discussion looks way better than the sad display KDE delivered. I am cautiously optimistic.
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A license may allow something but that doesn’t make it ethical to do. At the time these licenses where written the wholesale pillaging of the commons by AI companies wasn’t a thing. For that reason I don’t think it matters what license anything was published under. Unless you where given permission by the author its not OK to train your model on it.
I consider Open Weights models only open in name, the training data is almost never released. As such it is just an attempt at open washing. Its like releasing some executable files and calling that Open Binaries.
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Well for once I don’t think training a model should be considered fair use. At the time when people released their art and writings under such a license there wasn’t the threat of that resulting in them potentially losing their job. I for example stopped contributing to open source completely because of that threat. The reason why I consider training a model on these things immoral is that millions of people put in the effort of creating code or art in various forms and some rich assholes come along scrape it all and sell it back to us while creating ungodly amounts of pollution. It really doesn’t matter to me that a few bootlickers run some inferior models on their own system. They are legitimising AI by using it and are encouraging others to also do so. Meanwhile the damage is already done with artists being now accused of publishing AI-generated images because they wanted to do a good thing by releasing their art online for free and the models happily imitating their style.
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XFCE is already a lost cause. The new window manager for wayland is slop coded.
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The answer to that question might surprise you.
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No, and I have no plans on doing so based on the arguments outlined by the initial post. Arguing that search engines and AI systems are even remotely similar is a false equivalency and doesn’t really make me hopeful that the rest of their book is worth reading. I don’t really want to know what kind of mental gymnastics are necessary to come to that conclusion, but it probably involves talking to a chatbot for copious amounts of time.
Just for the slow kids in the back of the class. Search engines surface my work to a larger audience. They make it discoverable. I can use this audience to generate an income for myself. This is a fair deal. AI systems take my work without compensation, create a lossy compilation of multiple other works and sell it back to that audience while leaving me with nothing. Fuck anyone who calls that “fair use”.
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Well looks like GNOME is in danger of being significantly sloppified next.
Projects that continue to prohibit AI-generated vulnerability reports are no longer suitable dependencies for GNOME, and should be developed someplace other than GNOME GitLab.
Former security guy of GNOME basically demanding that everybody who bans LLM security reports should be removed from GNOME.
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Nuance! The world needs nuance!
If an author had an obviously centrist character say that line I’d call it lazy and on the nose writing.
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Well go ahead explain it to me then. Without personally attacking me if you please.
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Maybe take a look at River as a starting of point. I think it has an interesting concept and it’s strictly slop free.
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I was thinking about using swaywm but I don’t want to make the switch until their LLM ticket is resolved.
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The thing that I like about River is that it does the compositing while you can build your own window manager on top of it in whatever language you like. There are already a few examples to choose from some of them in C.
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I mean somebody has to build the love shack.